pure_white
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- Dec 8, 2021
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Its a real shame I have not heard any news that Wembley will be putting on some pre-match celebrations for St. George's Day. I hope at the very least the national anthem is played before KO.
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[Albion] St. George's Day at Wembley
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clapham_gull
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seagullwedgee
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I’m sorry to say, celebrating your pride in your own national heritage will upset someone. Many people in fact. Welcome to Woke Snowflake Land.
And Happy Saint George’s Day for Sunday. Can I say ‘Sunday’? Does ‘Sunday’ offend anyone? Oh, sorry…
And Happy Saint George’s Day for Sunday. Can I say ‘Sunday’? Does ‘Sunday’ offend anyone? Oh, sorry…
These days, if you say you’re English…..
- Apr 19, 2018
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As a woke snowflake with zero interest in the concept of saints, patron or otherwise and not someone who is particularly patriotic either, I'd like to say I have no issue with anyone celebrating St George's Day - same as the vast majority of woke snowflakes aren't that bothered. Fill yer boots. No crying into any skinny soy latte's here.
Heritage and identity are important and a big driver of social cohesion and who we are. I think I just feel part of smaller subsets of being English rather than national ones - you'll find me belting out Sussex by the Sea - and I definitely feel part of larger groups of humanity more than specifically English these days. I travel a lot with work all over the world and see fewer and fewer differences between people than ever before. I've never felt less at home in England and more at home in some other countries than I do at the moment. That doesn't make me ashamed of being English though, I just don't feel any particular urge to celebrate it either. But that's beside the point, it's not about me: generally speaking 99.9% of people just want to get along with their lives and don't actually care what other people do or say or think, and tolerant, respectful expressions of identity create curiosity, not animosity.
The 0.01% who get upset by tolerant, respectful expressions of identity are, I think, the ones who are insecure. Their direct mirror are the people who find it impossible to hear the story of how we adopted St George as England's patron saint without thinking it's having a dig at England or taking the mickey or being critical. But as with the 0.01% of woke snowflakes who shout the loudest and give the rest of us a bad name, there's 0.01% of patriotic English people who can't hear the facts about St George without taking it somehow as a personal affront and give those celebrating a bad name. I don't know how people on either side have the energy to be so angry all the time.
Anyway, Happy St George's Day to all who celebrate, I hope you enjoy it.
Well St Edmund use to be our patron saint. Proper Englishman - and he and his deed were real! Then England went all woke and snowflakey and decided a foreigner, someone with zero connection to us, should be our saint. Boo!
So no, I won't be celebrating. November 20th is the right day to celebrate England's true patron saint.
(Ah, good to have the old 'St George's Day' thread back! Don't think we had one last year.)
So no, I won't be celebrating. November 20th is the right day to celebrate England's true patron saint.
(Ah, good to have the old 'St George's Day' thread back! Don't think we had one last year.)
Iirc when in the Cub Scout’s we had some sort of parade through Brighton on the closest Sunday to SG’s day that ended up with a service of some sort at the Dome, all the the Scout groups, Brownies, Guides and even the BB & GB marched through the town centre. I remember one year watching to see the first ever Space Shuttle launch, Columbia I think on the TV’s on display in the COOP in London Road on the corner of Baker Street while we were waiting to start the parade.
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Without wishing to ignite some kind of "World's Hardest Patron Saint" thread do you know why St Edmund's flag has the same dragon as the Welsh flag and which came first? Did heraldic designers just lack imagination or was he linked to Wales in some way too?
Not sure, but I do believe the English dragon is white. And then 'Turkish George' came along and killed it!
- Apr 19, 2018
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I confess this is not a historical take that has occurred to me before, but put like that, it suddenly looks like an incredible act of trolling by the French King who chose St George as the symbol of England - a King, we should remember, who didn't actually like England and only came here for 6 months of his reign...
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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I am willing to bet that absolutely noone on here will be upset or offended by this.
Possibly in the real world and wider social media world someone will but you would have to go looking to find them.
Still it's a fun narrative to pretend that people sniggering and not really giving a toss is them being upset and offended.
Saint George didn't slay a dragon (at all) so everyone could engage in all this snowflakery.
- Mar 23, 2023
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No one is offended by celebrating St George’s day, the truth is no one bothers doing anything.
Now if we had copied the Irish and all got gatted in the pub on it, then it would have been celebrated and taken extremely seriously.
Now if we had copied the Irish and all got gatted in the pub on it, then it would have been celebrated and taken extremely seriously.
And I am also confident to say that there are plenty of folk working in local government and other public bodies who do get offended by the thought of English patriotism. I used to work with plenty of them. Remember going to an Easter BBQ where the hosts had decorated their garden with a little English bunting, some of the guests presumed that they were racists.
Thunder Bolt
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The OP is going to need a bigger net. Here goes.
. According to tradition he was a soldier in the Roman army. Saint George was a soldier of Cappadocian Greek origin and member of the Praetorian Guard for Roman emperor Diocletian, who was sentenced to death for refusing to recant his Christian faith. He became one of the most venerated saints and megalomartyrs in Christianity, and he has been especially venerated as a military saint since the Crusades. He is respected by Christians, Druze, as well as some Muslims as a martyr of monotheistic faith.
Btw the way, the Crusades were led by the French.
King Richard I, a Plantagenet, hardly set foot in Britain, and only spoke French.
Bonjour à tous
. According to tradition he was a soldier in the Roman army. Saint George was a soldier of Cappadocian Greek origin and member of the Praetorian Guard for Roman emperor Diocletian, who was sentenced to death for refusing to recant his Christian faith. He became one of the most venerated saints and megalomartyrs in Christianity, and he has been especially venerated as a military saint since the Crusades. He is respected by Christians, Druze, as well as some Muslims as a martyr of monotheistic faith.
Btw the way, the Crusades were led by the French.
King Richard I, a Plantagenet, hardly set foot in Britain, and only spoke French.
Bonjour à tous
It’s odd that I feel like I’ve always celebrated St George’s a day and others say never.
I guess the difference is whether you were a Scout / Guide or not.
In my youth, we used to properly parade with in-step marching and everything, but over the years it became a walk / stroll / amble with flags.
I also don’t get why all these things have to end with a religious ceremony and that’s what turned me away from the St George’s Day Parades in the end.
They’ll still be going on all over the place this Sunday, though, but with a few less attendees locally, as I know quite a few scouts who are off to Wembley!
I guess the difference is whether you were a Scout / Guide or not.
In my youth, we used to properly parade with in-step marching and everything, but over the years it became a walk / stroll / amble with flags.
I also don’t get why all these things have to end with a religious ceremony and that’s what turned me away from the St George’s Day Parades in the end.
They’ll still be going on all over the place this Sunday, though, but with a few less attendees locally, as I know quite a few scouts who are off to Wembley!
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So glad you reminded me its St Georges Day on Sunday - its my nieces birthday. Must get a card in the post....
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Greg Bobkin
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Here you go, snowflake.
Not Wembley, but hopefully close enough for some pre-match 'celebrations' of all things English – or wherever 'George' came from...
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