[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[rogersix]

I sincerely doubt it's shame. More likely anger.

I would imagine he fully believes what he's saying and that even having to explain himself is beneath him.

you're right, it's indignation.

without the eton/oxford education, he would've spent half his life in prison by now

 

[Machiavelli]

I sincerely doubt it's shame. More likely anger.

I would imagine he fully believes what he's saying and that even having to explain himself is beneath him.

Jenkin in his second round of questioning really got under his skin.

 

[KZNSeagull]

He fully believes that what he told the commons was the truth as he understood it at the time and he is not going to change the record in the house. If they have proof that he deliberately misled the house then we would have heard it by now.
Quite why any constituency would want him as their MP is a mystery but that is another matter entirely.

 

[Flagship]

I love how the last of the few Tory apologists left on here are the unequivocally and demonstrably thick. It paints an interesting picture as to the demographic of anyone currently still willing to put their cross next to a blue rosette.

I said censured and I meant censured. Look it up, it's in the dictionary.

 

[Nobby]

The BEEB getting worried about their funding again

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The BSL interpreter is a star.

 

[rogersix]

I said censured and I meant censured. Look it up, it's in the dictionary.

what do you think should happen to clampy for his, "plough them all into a ditch" comment?

 

[Flagship]

Well I don't think anything will happen as the moderator says he'll bar me if he has to ban Clampy. I'm not too bothered but I think Clampy would, as he seems to spend a vast amount of his time on here.

 

[Bob!]

He fully believes that what he told the commons was the truth as he understood it at the time and he is not going to change the record in the house. If they have proof that he deliberately misled the house then we would have heard it by now.
Quite why any constituency would want him as their MP is a mystery but that is another matter entirely.

No he doesn't.

He believes that the committee is not able to prove that he didn't believe it.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

He’s gone for the “I’m really thick” defence. Classic move.

As I noted earlier. The Arnold Judas Rimmer defence.

Except Rimmer was cross when he was acquitted. Johnson will celebrate with a smirk and party.

 

[rogersix]

Well I don't think anything will happen as the moderator says he'll bar me if he has to ban Clampy. I'm not too bothered but I think Clampy would, as he seems to spend a vast amount of his time on here.

no, i said, in what way should clampy be censured for the ditch ploughing comment?

 

[St Leonards Seagull]

What a load of tosh - of course people could meet, they could meet at work.
Not everyone was isolating, not bus drivers, train drivers, nurses, factory workers, farmers, police, armed forces, journalists, builders, shopworkers,etc etc, and especially politicians of all parties.
You could also go outside for exercise and walk your dog as long as you kept 2 metres apart.
Get your facts right.

As a nurse we were still under social distancing guidelines in offices and they were pretty strict about it where I worked.
It was only in essential areas that distancing was not in place and PPE was a must.
I don’t seem to remember any leaving drinks either.
It’s great to think all the time we’re were being provided with inadequate PPE which the Tories and their mates were profiting out of, the considered it appropriate to get pissed up and party.
I can’t for one second understand where anyone thinks that would be ok and defend it.

 

[WATFORD zero]

As a nurse we were still under social distancing guidelines in offices and they were pretty strict about it where I worked.
It was only in essential areas that distancing was not in place and PPE was a must.
I don’t seem to remember any leaving drinks either.
It’s great to think all the time we’re were being provided with inadequate PPE which the Tories and their mates were profiting out of, the considered it appropriate to get pissed up and party.
I can’t for one second understand where anyone thinks that would be ok and defend it.

Well there's only two reasons I can think of to defend it.

1. You are part of it and got PPE contracts through the illegal fast track program and have made a few million quid.
2. You haven't, aren't too bright, and are probably very naïve and easily led.

Although I don't think either are particularly justifiable

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

As a nurse we were still under social distancing guidelines in offices and they were pretty strict about it where I worked.
It was only in essential areas that distancing was not in place and PPE was a must.
I don’t seem to remember any leaving drinks either.
It’s great to think all the time we’re were being provided with inadequate PPE which the Tories and their mates were profiting out of, the considered it appropriate to get pissed up and party.
I can’t for one second understand where anyone thinks that would be ok and defend it.

Inveterate tory?

 

[Bodian]

No he doesn't.

He believes that the committee is not able to prove that he didn't believe it.

They didn't seem to lay a glove on him from what I saw. I reckon he'll get away with his lies.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

They didn't seem to lay a glove on him from what I saw. I reckon he'll get away with his lies.

'OJ' Johnson.

 

[Hamilton]

They didn't seem to lay a glove on him from what I saw. I reckon he'll get away with his lies.

Not even the part where his own counsel had to remind him what was in the Sue Gray report?

 

[Bodian]

Not even the part where his own counsel had to remind him what was in the Sue Gray report?

I don't see that bit! But having to be reminded of stuff isn't quite proving the liar was lying.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Not even the part where his own counsel had to remind him what was in the Sue Gray report?

Just evidence that he doesn't give a flying toss about any of this. His reputation will not be damaged in the eyes of most Tories. If Sunak loses the general election Johnson will return on a white horse to save the day.

 

[A1X]

'OJ' Johnson.

If the wine was in the suitcase, an election he should face