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[Brighton] Western Road Redevelopment



Dec 29, 2011
8,014
Western Road is about to be closed for the next 18 months. Traffic not allowed through and busses to be diverted. Upon inspection the plans don't look drastically different, it seems like a lot of turmoil for very little return, but I guess we'll find out how it goes.

 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
46,485
SHOREHAM BY SEA
Western Road is about to be closed for the next 18 months. Traffic not allowed through and busses to be diverted. Upon inspection the plans don't look drastically different, it seems like a lot of turmoil for very little return, but I guess we'll find out how it goes.

Looking at that it’s only east bound traffic being affected….and not all of Western Rd
 


PeterT

Well-known member
Apr 21, 2017
2,224
Hove
Long overdue, it’s been looking shabby for years. A few trees and a bit of tlc can’t do any harm.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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NSC Patreon
Jul 11, 2003
59,198
The Fatherland
Should do this permanently; be nice having the whole area pedestrianised. Or as I’ve suggested before having trams zipping along it.
 


talk2knighty

Member
Dec 26, 2014
73
Avoid the section of Montpelier Road that runs up from Western Road to the junction of Montpelier Terrace/ Upper North Street, every bus that normally heads towards Churchill Square on the Western Road will turn up Montpelier and right into Montpelier Terrace Upper North Street, then along there and down Regent Hill by the side of M & S.
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,198
The Fatherland
What is your opinion on the pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre? I’ll be honest, I’m dead against it.
I can’t say I’m familiar with it, what’s the issue?
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
35,264
Should do this permanently; be nice having the whole area pedestrianised. Or as I’ve suggested before having trams zipping along it.
if trams, why not buses?
 




Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,198
The Fatherland
if trams, why not buses?
They run on rails and are much easier to control, regulate and operate. Everytime I’m at Churchill Square there’s just a total mess of buses trying to pull up, pulling out, stopping, starting, stopping again. Its a complete mess. Contrast this to any modern European tram hub and youll see what I mean.

The current situation isn’t fit for purpose. And given the financial climate now is the time to do this. Makes perfect sense…..and it’s what other progressive nations are doing.
 




Super Steve Earle

Well-known member
Feb 23, 2009
8,313
North of Brighton
There's barely any shops left in Western Road already. Make it harder for shoppers to get there for 18m and there will be even fewer. It will look more pleasant once it's done but the actual shopfronts appear about 50% closed up. With high rents, business costs, less money to spend in shops and expensive parking, this will only be a cosmetic job that will only make a small debt in revitalising the area.
 




Jul 7, 2003
8,571
Ignoring the traffic issues, there was a lady on the radio this morning talking about the concern of homeowners on Upper North Street. There has been a weight limit there for years to stop heavy vehicles as the houses are made of Bungaroosh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungaroosh). Now it seems the Council are happy to run hundreds of heavy buses along the road each day so home owners are understandably concerned about this.

Likely to be a lot of building surveyors being employed in the area over the coming months as residents monitor for any signs of problems with their homes.
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
52,006
Burgess Hill
They run on rails and are much easier to control, regulate and operate. Everytime I’m at Churchill Square there’s just a total mess of buses trying to pull up, pulling out, stopping, starting, stopping again. Its a complete mess. Contrast this to any modern European tram hub and youll see what I mean.

The current situation isn’t fit for purpose. And given the financial climate now is the time to do this. Makes perfect sense…..and it’s what other progressive nations are doing.
…..unless they manage the project like Edinburgh, with continual delays and **** ups and ended taking YEARS longer than planned.
 




Ali_rrr

Well-known member
Feb 4, 2011
2,670
Utrecht, NL
They run on rails and are much easier to control, regulate and operate. Everytime I’m at Churchill Square there’s just a total mess of buses trying to pull up, pulling out, stopping, starting, stopping again. Its a complete mess. Contrast this to any modern European tram hub and youll see what I mean.

The current situation isn’t fit for purpose. And given the financial climate now is the time to do this. Makes perfect sense…..and it’s what other progressive nations are doing.
I find it insane that Brighton and Hove doesn't have any form of trams/metro/light rail going through the city (bar Volks Railway if we're being pedantic) and I think you're right regarding the buses at Churchill Square. It's a mess.
 






Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
63,389
Withdean area
Ignoring the traffic issues, there was a lady on the radio this morning talking about the concern of homeowners on Upper North Street. There has been a weight limit there for years to stop heavy vehicles as the houses are made of Bungaroosh (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungaroosh). Now it seems the Council are happy to run hundreds of heavy buses along the road each day so home owners are understandably concerned about this.

Likely to be a lot of building surveyors being employed in the area over the coming months as residents monitor for any signs of problems with their homes.
A loaded double decker at 13t, weighs one third of the heaviest lorries.

Wondering if the residents are just whining due to their world changing for 18 months?
 


Jul 7, 2003
8,571
A loaded double decker at 13t, weighs one third of the heaviest lorries.

Wondering if the residents are just whining due to their world changing for 18 months?
I think they said the existing weight limit was 7.5t
 



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