[Football] World Cup - Day Twelve

[PILTDOWN MAN]

The one earlier was offside and going for the ball, therefore off side and no need for the ref to view it, it’s not subjective, he was just offside and absolutely no need for the ref to view it on the screen.

If a team of 5 can’t see he’s offside, there is no hope

But we have seen in this WC when a player hasn't touched the ball it has been left to the on field ref to make a decision on if he had become active in his opinion. The act of becoming active but not actually touching the ball is subjective.

The EPL allow the useless refs in an office to make this call. therefore removing the subjective part of the offside law.

VAR was brought in to help the on field ref with defined actions such as ball over the line (GL tech) and whether a player is in an offside position. If he then touches the ball, again that is defined, if he becomes active but doesn't touch the ball that is subjective and the decision should be made on field. The EPL have it wrong. It's the same if a player is deemed to block the view of the keeper while being in an offside position, it is the on field ref to decide, even in the EPL we see this.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Wow that's not out? But then thinking about it I wonder how Hawkeye would represent that. Probably would have the edge of the ball clipping the line. This photo tells me that logically the rule should be if the centre line of the ball goes over the line then its out.

The balls have got a micro chip, so goal line technology would know it hasn’t fully crossed the line. If that was the goalmouth, it wouldn’t be a goal.

 

[JamesAndTheGiantHead]

The Samurai Blue Twitter is pretty on the nose with its in-game summaries.

 

[Bozza]

I don't know what it says, and I don't care either.

The fact they are drawing parallels with Wembley 66 is just delicious.

WM 2022: Millimeter-Drama um DFB-Aus! Diese Szene erinnert an Wembley

Dramatische Augenblicke beim deutschen DFB-Aus in Katar! Eine Situation im Parallel-Spiel erinnert an Wembley.

www.bild.de

 

[Garry Nelson's Left Foot]

I've penciled in a Japan England final. Lovely. Japan winning due to having the world cup magic of having a Brighton player.

 

[jcdenton08]

What does Mitoma have to do to start?! He should be the first name on the team sheet. I hate to bang on about this but I rated him from the start, he’s a superstar. Could become one of the greatest players in the world if he keeps this up.

Absolutely astonishing footballer and probably the best player I’ve seen in the stripes at this stage.

 

[nickjhs]

The balls have got a micro chip, so goal line technology would know it hasn’t fully crossed the line. If that was the goalmouth, it wouldn’t be a goal.

So this just confirms for me that the rules need adjusting. The ball should be considered out if the midline crosses fully over the boundary ie the ball can no longer physically touch the line unless it is brought back into play. As it stands the ruling is correct as it complies with the rules

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Yes. And there’s some nonsense about penalty shoot outs before group games to ensure no teams collude to draw the final game and put the third team in the group out.

Its actually impossible in a 3-team group for two teams to play-out a 0-0 draw in the final game and both go through.

But there are obviously collusion possibilities, e.g. when a 1-0 suits both sides

(unless they both beat the other team in which case its a moot point anyway, or there's some shenanigans about yellow cards breaking the tie)

 

[Stephen Seagull]

So this just confirms for me that the rules need adjusting. The ball should be considered out if the midline crosses fully over the boundary ie the ball can no longer physically touch the line unless it is brought back into play. As it stands the ruling is correct as it complies with the rules

hang on, you're saying that the rule needs "adjusting" because said rule was handled correctly?

If the rule is correct, everyone except morons understand it, then why should we adjust it? VAR did the 100% right thing, it was handled immensely and that should be enough.

 

[Stat Brother]

The Guardian Football Weekly pod opened with:-

"It just feels like the one team winning this World Cup is...






... Brighton".

 

[Klaas]

So this just confirms for me that the rules need adjusting. The ball should be considered out if the midline crosses fully over the boundary ie the ball can no longer physically touch the line unless it is brought back into play. As it stands the ruling is correct as it complies with the rules

I'm sorry this is so odd, the rule is what it is. Why would it be a better rule if the 'midline' crosses the line? Whole ball or midline, what difference does it make? As it is the rule is whole ball, so the goal is good.

 

[oldboyroy]

Overhead view confirms the ball still in play albeit by mm likewise it would count as a goal on the goal line

 

[nickjhs]

I'm sorry this is so odd, the rule is what it is. Why would it be a better rule if the 'midline' crosses the line? Whole ball or midline, what difference does it make? As it is the rule is whole ball, so the goal is

I'm sorry this is so odd, the rule is what it is. Why would it be a better rule if the 'midline' crosses the line? Whole ball or midline, what difference does it make? As it is the rule is whole ball, so the goal is good.

Simply because it would be a damn sight easier to adjudicate without the need for VAR. You don't need to have a bird's eye view to see if the ball is touching the line. You absolutely do if you have to determine if a part the ball is inside the line if you draw a horizontal line down from that point.

 

[Klaas]

Simply because it would be a damn sight easier to adjudicate without the need for VAR. You don't need to have a bird's eye view to see if the ball is touching the line. You absolutely do if you have to determine if a part the ball is inside the line if you draw a horizontal line down from that point.

Would it really? I imagine at different angles we'd all be debating if the ball had gone out or not even if you preferred rule were in place. Is it touching, is it really?? etc etc.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

So all the big nations have lost at least once apart from Brazil and Portugal because they still have one game left

England are the only big nation to play their 3 group matches and not lose, just sayin

Yeah, you know us, we save the worst until we really need it….
Sunday.

 

[peterward]

What does Mitoma have to do to start?! He should be the first name on the team sheet. I hate to bang on about this but I rated him from the start, he’s a superstar. Could become one of the greatest players in the world if he keeps this up.

Absolutely astonishing footballer and probably the best player I’ve seen in the stripes at this stage.

He's also playing brilliantly as a right wing back and not the conventional winger as he does with us. He defended really well too, cut off the ball many times and had Ferran Torres in his pocket.

Then broke with pace when he got it.

He was excellent last night, we're lucky to have him.

 

[The Fits]

The Guardian Football Weekly pod opened with:-

"It just feels like the one team winning this World Cup is...






... Brighton".

Even as a joke, the whole thing is totally mad.

Anyone know how Lamptey has been getting on by the way?

 

[Triggaaar]

Good old Alan Shearer. Nothing like kicking a nation when it's down!

Stupid question coming up: Is that a clip of them laughing about something else, or did they make it just for this?

 

[Stat Brother]

Even as a joke, the whole thing is totally mad.

Anyone know how Lamptey has been getting on by the way?

Jonathan Fadugba wasn't joking, about 7 minutes in:-

Germany and Belgium out but did Japan keep the ball in play? – Football Daily

Max Rushden, Barry Glendenning, Lars Sivertsen, Jonathan Fadugba and Archie Rhind-Tutt assess the fallout from an extraordinary night of drama in Groups E and F

www.theguardian.com

 

[peterward]

Stupid question coming up: Is that a clip of them laughing about something else, or did they make it just for this?