[Football] Qatar bans Crusaders costumes — and their plastic swords

[maltaseagull]

What do you think?

Me, I think that if they are offended by that, we should be offended by many things they allow or don't.

FIFA needs to stand up to Qatar but they have already cashed the cheques!

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[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Qatar rightfully get a whole load of flak for it's stance on many issues but IMHO they've called this one right. it's pretty crass to wander around the Middle East wearing full Crusader garb shirley? And I doubt you'd be allowed a plastic sword into the Amex. You could have someone's eye out

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Anyone who thought it was reasonable to turn up at matches in an Arab / Muslim country fancy-dressed as someone who raped, pillaged and occupied Arab lands, is a special level of stupid, and should consider themselves lucky if they are only refused entry to the games.

Utter pricks.

 

[schmunk]

An equivalence would be the Polish government banning foreign supporters wearing Nazi uniforms. Difficult to argue against, really.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Would this be akin to walking round a majority back neighbourhood in America in a cheap imitation of a clan outfit, complete with plastic 'burning' crucifix?

Let's just say that although I am very much against the way civil rights are ignored in many countries (including in the Middle East) they're spot on with this. The Crusades were hideous in every way, and drive a lot of the deep seated resentment and mis-trust of the West by the Muslim world.

 

[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

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[The Andy Naylor Fan Club]

 

[Guinness Boy]

Anyone who thought it was reasonable to turn up at matches in an Arab / Muslim country fancy-dressed as someone who raped, pillaged and occupied Arab lands, is a special level of stupid, and should consider themselves lucky if they are only refused entry to the games.

Utter pricks.

Exactly.

 

[LamieRobertson]

I’m waiting for them to ban bans

 

[brightn'ove]

An equivalence would be the Polish government banning foreign supporters wearing Nazi uniforms. Difficult to argue against, really.

For the record I think dressing as a crusader is stupid, but that is absolutely not an equivalent. It’s more akin to Norwegians coming to the U.K. dressed like vikings.

 

[Deportivo Seagull]

From what I could see on twitter, they had their swords confiscated but were allowed in and got them back after the game.

in all honesty not the brightest thing to do as it shows a distinct lack of manners and education.

 

[Psychobilly freakout]

Anyone who thought it was reasonable to turn up at matches in an Arab / Muslim country fancy-dressed as someone who raped, pillaged and occupied Arab lands, is a special level of stupid, and should consider themselves lucky if they are only refused entry to the games.

Utter pricks.

You can't really argue with any of the above, it is pretty crass and at the very least antagonistic, you know what your wearing and your doing it for a reaction.

 

[Brovion]

What do you think?

Me, I think that if they are offended by that, we should be offended by many things they allow or don't.

FIFA needs to stand up to Qatar but they have already cashed the cheques!

England fans dressed as St George ‘strip-searched by police’ at World Cup

Two England supporters dressed as St George say they were strip-searched before being allowed entry to the World Cup game against Iran.The men, whose outfits we

www.thetimes.co.uk

First thing FIFA/Qatar have done that I 100% agree with. And I know this is another proof of Godwin's Law but its the same as turning up at a Jewish party dressed as a Nazi stormtrooper.

 

[nicko31]

I guess they were dressed this way as they have done so at other England matches on the road. I don't think there is malice involved, more out of general ignorance...

 

[Brovion]

For the record I think dressing as a crusader is stupid, but that is absolutely not an equivalent. It’s more akin to Norwegians coming to the U.K. dressed like vikings.

Hmm. I don't think the 'Viking' comparison is quite the same. The Viking invasions are seen as part of the waves of invasions that helped to create us, the English/British. The Crusades are still viewed in a hostile light by the Arab/Muslim world.

 

[cjd]

Hmm. I don't think the 'Viking' comparison is quite the same. The Viking invasions are seen as part of the waves of invasions that helped to create us, the English/British. The Crusades are still viewed in a hostile light by the Arab/Muslim world.

LOL..! Tough shit then.


Maybe after all the hundreds of years that have passed since then, it,s time they got over it.

 

[Beanstalk]

Quite important to avoid whataboutery here. The banning of rainbow anything is ludicrous and unjust. The banning of "crusader garb" is completely fair and understandable. They're different issues.

You don't have to allow absolutely everything if you believe in fairness and freedom. Especially when one is about all human beings being born free and equal in dignity and rights, without distinction of any kind, and the other an inflammatory show of ignorance and aggression made to directly offend the home nation. Two very very different things.

 

[Dick Swiveller]

What do you think?

Me, I think that if they are offended by that, we should be offended by many things they allow or don't.

FIFA needs to stand up to Qatar but they have already cashed the cheques!

England fans dressed as St George ‘strip-searched by police’ at World Cup

Two England supporters dressed as St George say they were strip-searched before being allowed entry to the World Cup game against Iran.The men, whose outfits we

www.thetimes.co.uk

This went well. You must be pleased.

 

[Official Old Man]

The truth is that the fans wearing this gear had no idea what it meant.

 

[jcdenton08]

They’re right on this one, needless provocative. They’re still a bunch of ****s though.