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[Politics] The Spider and the Fly III - Sunak v Starmer







BBassic

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Jul 28, 2011
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I quite enjoyed Sunak's response to the question of his diverting funding from deprived areas which amounted to "well if Starmer would leave London he'd see that after 12 years of Tory rule we've got deprived areas all over the country"

Smart man.
 


luge

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Dec 18, 2010
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He did far better than LT did for sure; but he did also avoid most of Starmer's questions.

His two biggest attack lines were that KS was part of Corbyn's government and that they wanted to overturn Brexit.

The JC argument is very dull now, especially as the Tories crashed the economy. The second attack line is why Starmer daren't mention overturning the result anytime soon.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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Back in Sussex
I was disappointed in the new Prime Minister.

Whilst I understand the theatre of this event and playing to your own side, I was hoping for a measured approach from Sunak, similar in style to his two public addresses since winning the leadership contest.

I'm not sure grandstanding is really him, but I guess it was his first one and he'll develop a style as time goes on.

4/10 - could do much better.
 








LamieRobertson

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Feb 3, 2008
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SHOREHAM BY SEA
He did far better than LT did for sure; but he did also avoid most of Starmer's questions.

His two biggest attack lines were that KS was part of Corbyn's government and that they wanted to overturn Brexit.

The JC argument is very dull now, especially as the Tories crashed the economy. The second attack line is why Starmer daren't mention overturning the result anytime soon.
He is a politician after all :whistle:
 


Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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I quite enjoyed Sunak's response to the question of his diverting funding from deprived areas which amounted to "well if Starmer would leave London he'd see that after 12 years of Tory rule we've got deprived areas all over the country"

Smart man.
That seemed like a weird/lazy observation to me.
 




Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
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I thought Sunak made pretty short work of Starmer this afternoon in PMQs.

A good start all round.
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A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Not sure the "Your party wanted to make Jeremy Corbyn Prime Minister" line works that well after their party DID make Liz Truss Prime Minister, but there we go...
 






Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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His two biggest attack lines were that KS was part of Corbyn's government and that they wanted to overturn Brexit.
I don't think Sunak is as good as many believe. When you inherit a crashed economy you need as many options as you can to revive things. One of those options may be reversing parts of the Brexit arrangement we currently have. Therefore, it is naive to reduce your options by labelling overturning Brexit - or, by extension, any part of it - as a bad thing. The reality may be that a bilateral agreement over free movement of labour may be something we have to do to get the economy going. Similarly, we may need a Customs Union to boost exports, or some form of rowing back in order to 'border in the Irish Sea' problem.
 






Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
14,882
Only in the OPs own head.
I'm genuinely interested to see how people think that. Same with all the comments on Twitter, but I take all them with a massive dollop of salt.
 


KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
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Wolsingham, County Durham
I don't think Sunak is as good as many believe. When you inherit a crashed economy you need as many options as you can to revive things. One of those options may be reversing parts of the Brexit arrangement we currently have. Therefore, it is naive to reduce your options by labelling overturning Brexit - or, by extension, any part of it - as a bad thing. The reality may be that a bilateral agreement over free movement of labour may be something we have to do to get the economy going. Similarly, we may need a Customs Union to boost exports, or some form of rowing back in order to 'border in the Irish Sea' problem.
Well quite and I am surprised that Labour are currently rejecting this option too. It would fix a whole host of issues and would also give them half a chance of regaining some seats in Scotland and shut the SNP up for 5 minutes.
 




WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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I'm genuinely interested to see how people think that. Same with all the comments on Twitter, but I take all them with a massive dollop of salt.

Well you certainly won't get an honest or genuine answer from the OP, he'll claim anything and everything to try and get bait for his fishing trips :shrug:
 






Sid and the Sharknados

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Sep 4, 2022
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Well quite and I am surprised that Labour are currently rejecting this option too. It would fix a whole host of issues and would also give them half a chance of regaining some seats in Scotland and shut the SNP up for 5 minutes.
I don't see anybody in Scotland voting Labour if they say we'll go back into the EU or customs union, when the SNP and Lib Dems are already offering that.
Most people don't want to talk or think about it anymore, and promising to reopen discussion on freedom of movement will just open them to attacks of being soft on immigration.
 


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