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[Albion] Replacing Graham Potter (eventually)







Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,957
Crawley
You of all people should know the answer to that after all,you know what i`m trying to say but still act like a horses arse because you think it`s fun to be a wum .

I am not sure what you are trying to say actually, you seemed to be stating that a woman should not be given such a role just for the sake of diversity, I could agree with that, but then you said "You have to be there see it and have done it ,not just seen it at a lower level and think that qualifies you at any level . Whether you or i like it or not ,the men`s game is a completely different animal to the women`s game".
I disagree, and think your ability level as a bowler is irrelevant as to whether another person could step up a level and do well.
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,957
Crawley
Actually it was your original comment not mine,i just answered it in my way as an example.

Leave Men`s football alone !. It has done just fine for 165 years it doesn`t need a makeover from women. Equality in sport does not mean we need 10 male and 10 female top flight managers ,some of the new women commentators we now have are terrible,and a lot of you know this ,but we aren`t allowed to say it - that would be sexist ! .

It is sexist when you say "the new women commentators are terrible" because there are a good number of shit commentators of the male variety too. You can absolutely say any individual is shit at their job, just stop making it about their gender.
 


Bakero

Languidly clinical
Oct 9, 2010
13,785
Almería
I agree ,just not in the MENS game ,omo but i am sticking with it ,if you choose to be offended by that, that is on you not me.

Don't worry, I'm not offended. Just trying to understand the logic behind your opinion.

You seem to be saying that you think they could do the job perfectly well but they shouldn't be given the opportunity because they are women. Is that right?
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,957
Crawley
I say again "MENS LEAGUES" , the women`s WC winners were battered 5-2 by a BOYS u15 side , i tried to put it politely but if the WC winners coached by a woman cant beat a kids team i dont want a woman anywhere near the Brighton job .

Do you think swapping the managers over would have seen the Womens WC winners smash the Boys side?
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
50,071
Faversham
I am not sure what you are trying to say actually, you seemed to be stating that a woman should not be given such a role just for the sake of diversity, I could agree with that, but then you said "You have to be there see it and have done it ,not just seen it at a lower level and think that qualifies you at any level . Whether you or i like it or not ,the men`s game is a completely different animal to the women`s game".
I disagree, and think your ability level as a bowler is irrelevant as to whether another person could step up a level and do well.

This is an interesting exchange. I will hold my hand up as an old man and admit I have been caught out wandering into lazy stereotype territory. The first instinct is to do as [MENTION=41927]TugWilson[/MENTION] has done and, having had no malice aforethought, get all shirty. I have done it. But then....you have to train yourself to accept that you can be wrong and that times change. My very left wing brother who has in many respects led a sheltered life has on occasions triggered a raised eyebrow for using the 'c' word (coloured). He doesn't do it now. We live and learn. Eventually. ??? :thumbsup:
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
50,071
Faversham
Don't worry, I'm not offended. Just trying to understand the logic behind your opinion.

You seem to be saying that you think they could do the job perfectly well but they shouldn't be given the opportunity because they are women. Is that right?

:lolol:

But if you hand people a spade their instinct may be to tonk you over the head with it. Personally I would keep digging, then initiate a distraction by turning it into a self-effacing joke. I have my Pringles ready now....
 






jimhigham

Je Suis Rhino
Apr 25, 2009
7,738
Woking
No need to think about an event that might be (hopefully) a few years away. Just enjoy these times.

That’s fine as a stance for us supporters but I really hope that the club does have a succession plan/shortlist in place because we could need it at any moment. I’m sure it does too.
 


Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
I say again "MENS LEAGUES" , the women`s WC winners were battered 5-2 by a BOYS u15 side , i tried to put it politely but if the WC winners coached by a woman cant beat a kids team i dont want a woman anywhere near the Brighton job .

Maybe if you dare to leave you house and interact with women, you'd notice you don't really have to be afraid of them.
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,500
Dorset
I am not sure what you are trying to say actually, you seemed to be stating that a woman should not be given such a role just for the sake of diversity, I could agree with that, but then you said "You have to be there see it and have done it ,not just seen it at a lower level and think that qualifies you at any level . Whether you or i like it or not ,the men`s game is a completely different animal to the women`s game".
I disagree, and think your ability level as a bowler is irrelevant as to whether another person could step up a level and do well.

So what your saying is you have an opinion that differs from mine,fine. I believe familiarity and experience is vital in top football jobs,such as managering The Albion . I also believe no woman on planet Earth can do that job as well as any man that has played in any of the men`s leagues,that is my opinion and i don`t need your approval on that,because that`s all it is - an opinion.

As for the relevance of my bowling,i think you know exactly what i was saying,my friend thought i was good enough to do well at a higher level-he was wrong,some think a woman can coach a professional men`s team-i think they are wrong.But only if it`s ok with you and those who think as you do that i am entitled to an opinion .
 




Feb 23, 2009
23,001
Brighton factually.....
Can i interject here, I for one would like to say, I don't want Potter to go, I am enjoying the ride, this has been the most pleasant and unnerve racking period I have known supporting the Albion, there is a serenity about the club.

Why do folks want to get a big shitty stick and prod a hornets nest, why ?

Why can't we cross that broken rope walkway way when it comes, I don't want to even think about it.
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,500
Dorset
It is sexist when you say "the new women commentators are terrible" because there are a good number of shit commentators of the male variety too. You can absolutely say any individual is shit at their job, just stop making it about their gender.

So your quote is not a quote,but a cherry picked part of a sentence,what`s up can`t win an argument fairly ?
 


TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,500
Dorset
Don't worry, I'm not offended. Just trying to understand the logic behind your opinion.

You seem to be saying that you think they could do the job perfectly well but they shouldn't be given the opportunity because they are women. Is that right?

No,that is not right and you know it .
 






Swansman

Pro-peace
May 13, 2019
22,320
Sweden
So what your saying is you have an opinion that differs from mine,fine. I believe familiarity and experience is vital in top football jobs,such as managering The Albion . I also believe no woman on planet Earth can do that job as well as any man that has played in any of the men`s leagues,that is my opinion and i don`t need your approval on that,because that`s all it is - an opinion.

As for the relevance of my bowling,i think you know exactly what i was saying,my friend thought i was good enough to do well at a higher level-he was wrong,some think a woman can coach a professional men`s team-i think they are wrong.But only if it`s ok with you and those who think as you do that i am entitled to an opinion .

I don't believe any 40 year old virgin incel is capable of making any sort of qualified guess about what women on earth can and cannot do. "That is my opinion and i don`t need your approval on that,because that`s all it is - an opinion."

Corinne Diacre did a good job with Clermont in Ligue 2. No reason other female managers couldn't do the same.
 




Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,957
Crawley
This is an interesting exchange. I will hold my hand up as an old man and admit I have been caught out wandering into lazy stereotype territory. The first instinct is to do as [MENTION=41927]TugWilson[/MENTION] has done and, having had no malice aforethought, get all shirty. I have done it. But then....you have to train yourself to accept that you can be wrong and that times change. My very left wing brother who has in many respects led a sheltered life has on occasions triggered a raised eyebrow for using the 'c' word (coloured). He doesn't do it now. We live and learn. Eventually. ??? :thumbsup:

I think that success in top level womens football is not likely to translate easily into success in PL mens football, I just don't think you can say it is of no value and impossible. I don't know whether Potter would cite his time coaching at University, or lower league Swedish Football, as less valuable than his seasons at the higher end of Swedish Football, or the one in the Championship with Swansea, in preparation for his current role. The steps up the divisions could be just proof, and all the skills required were learned at the University job, though more experience is useful, his attitude and commitment seems to be the major part of his success to me.
 




TugWilson

I gotta admit that I`m a little bit confused
Dec 8, 2020
1,500
Dorset
Maybe if you dare to leave you house and interact with women, you'd notice you don't really have to be afraid of them.

Bit of a COWARD aren`t you, pulling that "leaving the house" shit AGAIN!. It takes a particular type of bottom feeder to troll info from the Mental Health thread to spread throughout the board to try and gain an upper hand .
 


Baldseagull

Well-known member
Jan 26, 2012
10,957
Crawley
So what your saying is you have an opinion that differs from mine,fine. I believe familiarity and experience is vital in top football jobs,such as managering The Albion . I also believe no woman on planet Earth can do that job as well as any man that has played in any of the men`s leagues,that is my opinion and i don`t need your approval on that,because that`s all it is - an opinion.

As for the relevance of my bowling,i think you know exactly what i was saying,my friend thought i was good enough to do well at a higher level-he was wrong,some think a woman can coach a professional men`s team-i think they are wrong.But only if it`s ok with you and those who think as you do that i am entitled to an opinion .

You are entitled to your opinion, and as long as you are happy to share it on here, I am entitled to pick holes in it, and try and help you form a better one, or at least be able to rationalise your current one better.
 


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