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The Clamp

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I don’t necessarily disagree with you but after 1000+ years of Monarchy it feels like a big burden / responsibility for one generation to seize a moment in time to abolish it. Having said that, with the benefit of seeing what’s in store for them after Queen Elizabeth II, future generations would probably thank us if we did.

To be honest, I don’t actually mind if we keep a monarchy but they need to lead a lot more austere existence. Enough of these grand displays of self - worship. Wholly inappropriate while a country has people who cannot afford to feed their children or heat their home.

They could start by raising that carriage load of cherubim to appreciate what hardships others have to live with. If we must keep them, let’s put them to work.
 




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For older readers (of Private Eye), who was Brenda and who was Yvonne?
 


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I don’t necessarily disagree with you but after 1000+ years of Monarchy it feels like a big burden / responsibility for one generation to seize a moment in time to abolish it. Having said that, with the benefit of seeing what’s in store for them after Queen Elizabeth II, future generations would probably thank us if we did.

One of the things I do find amusing about the whole Monarchy thing is that it does go back all those years and you can GUARANTEE that somewhere back through that lot there's illegitimacy that isn't recognised, but means we are actually bowing down to completely the wrong person according to royal lineage laws :lolol:

Personally I think it's time to knock it on the head after Brenda who, to be fair hasn't made a bad fist of it.
 
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One of the things I do find amusing about the whole Monarchy thing is that it does go back all those years and you can GUARANTEE that somewhere back through that lot there's illegitimacy somewhere that isn't recognised but means we are actually bowing down to completely the wrong person according to royal lineage :lolol:

Yup - but the thing that makes Monarchy work as an institution is it’s all an illusion and shrouded in mystery. Just don’t look behind the curtain.
 




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We need a head of state. One that is basically a figurehead and no more, which is what the Queen is. An elected president would not provide this. I shudder thinking of other countries presidents in recent years… Trump, Macron, Putin and that dickhead in Turkey but to name a few. You can bet the house that if we had a president, Boris would have given Prime Minister the middle finger and gone for president. An absolute ****ing nightmare.

The issue of royal hangers on certainly needs addressing as we have way too many prince and princesses.


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I agree.

I always like the queen, till the numpty red faced protogammon got hold of her in the late 70s, hijacking the Royals in pursuit of the British Movement agenda. There ain't no black in the union jack.

These days, I very much agree with you. Powerless figureheads are perfect. Dutiful servants of the nations, like the queen. Not entitled dick-heads like the sweat-less rapist.

I think the royals could very well bimble on. Charles is a witless fool, but well-intentioned and mosly harmless. The next in line is a decent lad, with his mother's genes giving him a bit of empathy to go with the German resolve.

Yes, cut the civil list, ensure that the hairy-arse wing of the aristos can't ponce around like the lords and ladies they imagine we imagine them to be, and all will be well.
 




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She's back! After months of disappearing Lord Lucan styley, Carrie Antoinette has resurfaced. Woah, cut the ice there. :ohmy:

That hat. Tilted at that angle so she doesn't have to look at him?


Like the divorced parents at their kids graduation ceremony, they so don't want to be there together.

A Princess Dianaesque outfit by Princess Nut Nuts too. I think her fairytale may be coming to an end as well.
 
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I've got a lot of time for William and especially his 7 and a half years of full-time military service.

Being royal doesn't mean that he should be respected any more or less than any other serviceman or servicewoman.

Reverse snobbery is just as unattractive as the regular version.

William's a genuine, non glory-hunting football supporter and loves the beautiful game as much as any of us on here.

And he's clearly interested in supporting mental health charities, especially with guys.

Crouch's podcast from 2020 shows him in an excellent, normal light as someone who enjoys people and likes a laugh.

He doesn't come across as arrogant or entitled. Despite a different and privileged background, he can still connect.

IMHO, the monarchy will be both safe and relevant in his hands.

"If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch..."


- 'If', Rudyard Kipling







 




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Pictures like this epitomise the whole pantomime. Parading the over-privilege children around in carriages. The peasants being waved at by the richest children in the country while England burns.

Revolting.

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“Just make it stop Great Grandma, I don’t want this life”
 


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How very unfair.

He read History at Trinity, having smashed the entry requirements with a B and a C in his A levels… :rolleyes:

I heard that a servant read history to him.
 








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I've got a lot of time for William and especially his 7 and a half years of full-time military service.

Being royal doesn't mean that he should be respected any more or less than any other serviceman or servicewoman.

Reverse snobbery is just as unattractive as the regular version.

William's a genuine, non glory-hunting football supporter and loves the beautiful game as much as any of us on here.

And he's clearly interested in supporting mental health charities, especially with guys.

Crouch's podcast from 2020 shows him in an excellent, normal light as someone who enjoys people and likes a laugh.

He doesn't come across as arrogant or entitled. Despite a different and privileged background, he can still connect.

IMHO, the monarchy will be both safe and relevant in his hands.

"If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch..."


- 'If', Rudyard Kipling









Okay. I’ll go along with that for sure. Genuinely. Nice guy and as you say, he did his service admirably.

Tell me again why he deserves untold wealth and land provided by the taxpayer?
 


I agree.

I always like the queen, till the numpty red faced protogammon got hold of her in the late 70s, hijacking the Royals in pursuit of the British Movement agenda. There ain't no black in the union jack.

These days, I very much agree with you. Powerless figureheads are perfect. Dutiful servants of the nations, like the queen. Not entitled dick-heads like the sweat-less rapist.

I think the royals could very well bimble on. Charles is a witless fool, but well-intentioned and mosly harmless. The next in line is a decent lad, with his mother's genes giving him a bit of empathy to go with the German resolve.

Yes, cut the civil list, ensure that the hairy-arse wing of the aristos can't ponce around like the lords and ladies they imagine we imagine them to be, and all will be well.

And change the national anthem to something modern, reflective of society and inclusive. It has no relevance unless your a christian monarchist as well as being a dirge of a tune.
 


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Awful lot of vitriol on this thread which I doubt is representative of the country as a whole?

Whilst I’m very much in favour of abolishing the monarchy I think it’s a bit churlish to lob verbal grenades at the Queen, who seems to have done a pretty good job over the decades, whatever you might think of the value of the job.

If we moved to a republic, we’ll still need a titular head of state who will end up doing much the same things as the Queen, unless we wholly change our system of government.

Comparisons with countries like the US and fears of a Trump style president are largely irrelevant as their system is entirely different anyway.

For what it’s worth, I think the monarchy is likely to fade away over the next decade or three. I thought it very instructive that virtually no retailer in Worthing seems to have made anything of the Jubilee and none of the usual monarchical tat was in evidence, unlike previous Jubilees I can remember…..


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Tell me again why he deserves untold wealth and land provided by the taxpayer?

Actually, I don't think William (or anyone else) deserves untold wealth and land provided by taxpayers.

Beyond a certain reasonable level of provision, it's wrong and can easily foster feelings of superiority for the recipient.

And with a love of money, class and privilege often comes a temptation to think that the normal rules of society don't apply to them.

Of course, this isn't just restricted to royals and politicians.

JB Priestley saw this in the self-made industrial Birling family of 1912 in An Inspector Calls.

And it's not just a UK thing. "Queen of Mean" hotel billionaire Leona Helmsley famously declared, "only the little people pay taxes."
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/aug/21/usnews

Clearly there are expenses to be paid to support a royal family. But UK taxpayers should rightly expect a return on investment.

A hardworking, honest and humble life of public service to those who pay for it would seem an appropriate repayment.

I think William understands this reality. It should serve him well in the years to come.
 


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I took photos from my grandstand seat outside Buckingham Palace. Some were ok but the fly past ones were rubbish. Apologies to our ex RAF lads.

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:facepalm: :facepalm:
 


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