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big nuts

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Jan 15, 2011
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[MENTION=566]Bad Ash[/MENTION] I forgot to ask what shoes you wore on the track?
I found spikes OK but my Nike Zoom Pegasus seemed to sponge flat on the bouncy track surface. I've never worn my Vaporfly at Withdean. What did you wear? [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] ?

I tend to go for Saucony Endorphin Speed. A great all round shoe and quick.
 
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Bad Ash

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Jul 18, 2003
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[MENTION=566]Bad Ash[/MENTION] I forgot to ask what shoes you wore on the track?
I found spikes OK but my Nike Zoom Pegasus seemed to sponge flat on the bouncy track surface. I've never worn my Vaporfly at Withdean. What did you wear? [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] ?

When I did my first race back in December I wore Vaporfly, and they felt as good as ever. Afterwards I learnt that technically anything over 25mm is not legal for track, which would rule out all the super shoes. In reality at the level of events I enter I don’t think it’s an issue. My in my own head it would put an * next to any times I set. So of course I went and got a pair of Nike Dragonfly, which is what I wore this week.

I’d only worn them once in training but there they seemed to perform well, with me completing reps faster relative to others in the group (eg finishing just ahead of someone that’d normally pip me) when I wore my standard shoe (Saucony Endorphin Speed 2).

They felt fine for 1500m and I’ll definitely wear them up to 3000m.
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
12,995
When I did my first race back in December I wore Vaporfly, and they felt as good as ever. Afterwards I learnt that technically anything over 25mm is not legal for track, which would rule out all the super shoes. In reality at the level of events I enter I don’t think it’s an issue. My in my own head it would put an * next to any times I set. So of course I went and got a pair of Nike Dragonfly, which is what I wore this week.

I’d only worn them once in training but there they seemed to perform well, with me completing reps faster relative to others in the group (eg finishing just ahead of someone that’d normally pip me) when I wore my standard shoe (Saucony Endorphin Speed 2).

They felt fine for 1500m and I’ll definitely wear them up to 3000m.

They look perfect for me. Won't get them for this year as behind on training and will stick with the Nike flat spikes for my 1500m at Lewes end of July. Be a good meet up for various NSC members that are in clubs.

Had a few hours spare in Eastbourne yesterday and ran 4 Half Mile intervals around Princes Park. Was disappointed with the average pace until I saw on Strava how much time I lost on the numerous 90 degree turns. Be a straight line distance next week.
 


jimhigham

Je Suis Rhino
Apr 25, 2009
7,813
Woking
Anybody doing Run Gatwick this morning? If so, I’m taking photographs. I’ll be on Bonnett’s Lane and, once it warms up, will be visible in the hyper turquoise away shirt (under the high vis, obvs).

Best of luck.

Now then. Cup of coffee and MOTD before setting off I think.
 


D

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At the risk of sounding like a broken RECORD,:rave::banana: I have done two more on my past 2 runs!


However not sure if they qualify as legit records???


My best VO2 was 49 and I have never been able to top that, however, 3 days ago I hit the 50, and today I hit a VO2 of 51.

Is this a true representation? as I have run 8 x 600m with 2 mins rest and today 8 x 600m with 90 secs rest?

I wondered if the rest period helped in recording the VO2 better.


Does anyone know?
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
:lolol: Exactly but all are welcome. A rare appearance by your good self would be appreciated. There would be a place in the A Team, I'm sure.

Great to hear that it's being staged again and that volunteers to organise NSC have been drafted in. I'm a pretty bad bet to take part right now as the best I'm managing is to escort Mrs JB on her 6.40 per km runs. Anything 'quick' is currently flirting with injury. If I'm recovered by then I'll be up for it.

Of the Worthing contingent, GNT junior is crocked and Mark Jacques has moved out of Worthing - but might be up for it.
 


knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
12,995
Great to hear that it's being staged again and that volunteers to organise NSC have been drafted in. I'm a pretty bad bet to take part right now as the best I'm managing is to escort Mrs JB on her 6.40 per km runs. Anything 'quick' is currently flirting with injury. If I'm recovered by then I'll be up for it.

Of the Worthing contingent, GNT junior is crocked and Mark Jacques has moved out of Worthing - but might be up for it.

Sad news for [MENTION=26634]Simgull[/MENTION] who will no longer be needed as stand in Gaffer. My partner has an injured knee and we have had to cancel our campervan trip to be near the NHS.

Good luck with recovery. I'm currently enjoying my running but have gained a minute at Hove Prom Parkrun. Maybe due to tired legs from intervals 48 hours before?

Tonight I'm returning to Withdean for the first time in 9 months. It's going to be hard.
 


Garry Nelson's teacher

Well-known member
May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Sad news for [MENTION=26634]Simgull[/MENTION] who will no longer be needed as stand in Gaffer. My partner has an injured knee and we have had to cancel our campervan trip to be near the NHS.

Good luck with recovery. I'm currently enjoying my running but have gained a minute at Hove Prom Parkrun. Maybe due to tired legs from intervals 48 hours before?

Tonight I'm returning to Withdean for the first time in 9 months. It's going to be hard.

Bad news about that knee but good to have you back and involved.

So how did Withdean go? And did you do a Parkrun today?

My hammy has felt
better of late so I decided to test it on a hilly course, as the last 2 times I've done Worthing its ended with me dropping out. Rather counter intuitively I've got more confidence on the hills, maybe because the stride pattern varies so much.
Plus I've always fancied a crack at Mole Valley which is a stunning course through a vineyard just outside Dorking.

The good news is that the hammy coped and got me a time of 22.22. The AG was no great shakes, around 76%. But the time was the 2nd best ever posted by an old git (65-69) which was a surprise albeit a pleasant one.
 








knocky1

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Jan 20, 2010
12,995
So how did Withdean go? And did you do a Parkrun today?

My hammy has felt
better of late so I decided to test it on a hilly course, as the last 2 times I've done Worthing its ended with me dropping out. Rather counter intuitively I've got more confidence on the hills, maybe because the stride pattern varies so much.
Plus I've always fancied a crack at Mole Valley which is a stunning course through a vineyard just outside Dorking.

The good news is that the hammy coped and got me a time of 22.22. The AG was no great shakes, around 76%. But the time was the 2nd best ever posted by an old git (65-69) which was a surprise albeit a pleasant one.

Good news on the hamstring.Never had a problem with them myself. Cracking run at the Mole Valley.

Withdean was great last Monday. The 3 groups were formed on sub 20" 5k, 20"-22" 5k and over 22" 5k. Each group ran 4 times 400m fast and the stragglers had to catch up during each 400m recovery stage. Being in the 20-22" group made me the straggler. Not sure if the coach realised that meant the stragglers had to work harder in recovery than the front runners. I hung on but by the 200m fast with 200m recovery I was just hanging on. Nice session and an initial 7:30 mile pace recovery.

Booked in for tomorrow at Withdean and Monday after have entered the Lewes Track 60+ Masters 800m and 5000m. Not expecting too much but need to give myself some pain.
 




Garry Nelson's teacher

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May 11, 2015
5,257
Bloody Worthing!
Good news on the hamstring.Never had a problem with them myself. Cracking run at the Mole Valley.

Withdean was great last Monday. The 3 groups were formed on sub 20" 5k, 20"-22" 5k and over 22" 5k. Each group ran 4 times 400m fast and the stragglers had to catch up during each 400m recovery stage. Being in the 20-22" group made me the straggler. Not sure if the coach realised that meant the stragglers had to work harder in recovery than the front runners. I hung on but by the 200m fast with 200m recovery I was just hanging on. Nice session and an initial 7:30 mile pace recovery.

Booked in for tomorrow at Withdean and Monday after have entered the Lewes Track 60+ Masters 800m and 5000m. Not expecting too much but need to give myself some pain.

That session sounds brutal. I've found that club training sessions
are tougher than races. Indeed I've strained the hammy twice in such sessions!
 


D

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Got another VO2 record what is happening to my body?


I have officially gone into a purple sector!


Come on guys is this normal to go from 49 to 50 to 51 to 52 in a couple of weeks???

*thinks* what have I been eating???
 

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Curious Orange

Punxsatawney Phil
Jul 5, 2003
9,970
On NSC for over two decades...
Table updated as both [MENTION=25508]soistes[/MENTION] and I have moved up a place.

I *think* I've caught up with all the results since the last update, so shout if anything has been missed.

NAME 5K SB 5K PB SB AG 10K 10M HM M
GNT 20:38 20:20 82.79% 40:31 1:19:12 1:31:18 4:19:55
Artie Fufkin 18:12 16:55 77.29% 35:47 1:15:58 2:42:07
Bad Ash18:2118:2175.89%37:43 1:35:003:39:23
CoolTed17:1875.27%36:1059:55 1:20:39 3:01:52
Knocky 21:4817:45 74.85% 39:52 1:34:00 3:50:49
Blue&WhiteSea 18:07 17:05 74.79% 36:53 1:00:09 1:20:40 2:55:02
Simgull 20:51 20:21 73.7%42:45 1:11:46 1:38:14 3:44:28
Soistes 23:00 21:51 73.62% 46:14 1:43:12 3:51:33
St Leonard's 18:21 18:2173.30% 1:34:35
Curious Orange 20:11 18:36 70.77% 37:59 1:24:23.9 3:29:23
ForestRow18:2318:2370.17% 1:22:20 3:00:18
Bob! 24:22 22:41 67.6% 45.391:16:42 1:44:21 3:53:35
Greg Bobkin 22:52 20:54 61.08% 46:57 1:18:01 1:39:00 3:57:37
Notters 22:1322:13 60.54%
Perrys Trackie Botoms % 1:46:37 4:34:24
Big Nuts 18:00 38:10 1:05:38 1:24:23 3:10:23
Badger18:0537:41 1:22:572:56:33
HerrTubthumper19:03 1:36:10 3:05:34
Ben Eltons Bro20:3343:03 1:32:31 3:28:03
Anchorman 21:34 46.25 1:41:38 3:55:00
Guinness Boy 22:04 46:50 01:21:06 1:45.30 4:00:06
snowflake%44:16 1:14:03
Ninja Elephant 17:37 % 37:33 1:07:57 1:27:43 3:10:49
Fitzcarraldo 19:33 %
Mr Banana 19:28 %
P's Harmonica 20:10 % 43:03 1:33:56 3:27:19
Mr Blobby23:05% 48:54 1:20:05 1:47:44 4:13:22
CompleteBadger 19:37% 41:25 1:17:11 1:30:58 3:29:52
chaileyjem24:45%54:47 1:54:30
DFreemansPerm28:46
Biffy Boy 19.55%41:31 1:33:17 3:18:39
Dazzer 19.57 % 1:36 3:43:
jimmygull20:5049:19 4:04:32
seagull-si21.29% 1:43:42
lostinlondon 22:00 % 44.13
Nathan22:36%46:58 1:44:54 4:06:25
sjamesb346622:58%47:141:21:12 1:48:49
JoePrecious 19:44 46:19 1:24:08 1:38:13 4:04:30
Jonny Rainbow41:43 1:12:40 3:24:38
Shippers 1:43:42
 




knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
12,995
Flexor Hallucis Longus (FHL) connects big toe to top of lower leg and Flexor Digitorum Longus (FDL) connects 4 small toes to top of lower leg.
As I have progressed this month to speed work and fore foot running my body has neglected the FHL on right leg and worked ony with the small toes FDL. Result was a calf twinge before Saturday's Parkrun and pulling up 400m into Monday's Withdean session.
No damage or long term problem but a few days strengthening the big toe and concentrating on full ground contact with the foot.
Good news as I'm starting to move up from 90% fitness.
Great flat track bully run on the Prom Saturday with a 29" time but crossing the line at 5:30 mile pace after leg had warmed up.
Hove Park hopefully on Saturday for first time in number of years, hope to see some of you I've neglected.
 


Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
15,015
Lost a bit of momentum/mojo/time to run recently. Not sure if the two marathons were something to do with it, but I find myself only going for shorter runs and the enjoyment factor has dropped a little bit. Unfortunately, the counter is that the weight has crept back on so today is the start of another 'eat less (and less shite), move more' process.

Hove Park on Saturday seems like a good place to try and get back in the groove. Seeing the gaffer would be the cherry on the icing on the cake!
 


Simgull

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2013
1,651
Hove
Mrs Simgull is RD a at Hove Park on Saturday, so the opportunity to see a rejuvenated [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION] in action and see [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION] for the first time since pre-Covid means I think I know where I’ll be on Saturday!
 








Simgull

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2013
1,651
Hove
It was a case of ‘getting the band back together’ at Hove Park this morning with appearances by [MENTION=15605]knocky1[/MENTION], [MENTION=24635]Greg Bobkin[/MENTION], [MENTION=13055]Ninja Elephant[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3975]ben[/MENTION] Elton’s Brother. [MENTION=18183]big nuts[/MENTION] you should have been there!

A set of atypical finishing times which may have been impacted by pacing, injury, turning up late and an impromptu ‘ who can finish last contest’. Will leave you to work out who’s time was influenced by these factors!
 


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