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Is no statue safe?



Jan 30, 2008
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It’s all contextual. If you flew the Union flag in say, Jamaica it would mean very different things to flying it in Britain. Same with statues. The British monarchy means a lot of different things to a lot of different countries. Some good. Some bad.
We need to respect other country’s feelings about Britain’s legacy.
These people are protesting the discovery of a colonial mass grave containing the bodies of 1,000 indigenous peoples. They are understandably angered.

Who are these people who do they represent by pulling down statues without any authority ???
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The Clamp

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Who are these people who do they represent by pulling down statues without any authority ???
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DF

The whole point of protest is that it doesn’t ask permission.

Who gave British soldiers authority to kill 1,000 Canadians and bury them in unmarked graves?
 


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The whole point of protest is that it doesn’t ask permission.

Who gave British soldiers authority to kill 1,000 Canadians and bury them in unmarked graves?

So protesting involving criminal damage is ok in you're book and I would imagine the commanding officer gave the order ? do you know why they were killed? Or is it more of anti British woke cancel culture agenda on your behalf
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So protesting involving criminal damage is ok in you're book and I would imagine the commanding officer gave the order ? do you know why they were killed? Or is it more of anti British woke cancel culture agenda on your behalf
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DF

Do I know why British soldiers killed 1000 indigenous peoples and buried them in an unmarked grave? Ha! You're such a dafty.

If a country colonised England, murdered indigenous peoples and then put up statues of the monarch in whose name the mass murder was committed, then no I wouldn't blame anyone for tearing them down as awareness grew.

Not everything is binary. The far right don't do nuance so I don't expect you to understand.
 


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Do I know why British soldiers killed 1000 indigenous peoples and buried them in an unmarked grave? Ha! You're such a dafty.

If a country colonised England, murdered indigenous peoples and then put up statues of the monarch in whose name the mass murder was committed, then no I wouldn't blame anyone for tearing them down as awareness grew.

Not everything is binary. The far right don't do nuance so I don't expect you to understand.

You've failed to answer the questions and then bring in the far the far right, priceless Nibble have a cap on me :dunce:
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You've failed to answer the questions and then bring in the far the far right, priceless Nibble have a cap on me :dunce:
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DF

I answered your questions, you just don't like the answers. As for the far right, I was referring to your inability to comprehend the details of a situation.


There we are, all cleared up :thumbsup:
 


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Do I know why British soldiers killed 1000 indigenous peoples and buried them in an unmarked grave? Ha! You're such a dafty.

If a country colonised England, murdered indigenous peoples and then put up statues of the monarch in whose name the mass murder was committed, then no I wouldn't blame anyone for tearing them down as awareness grew.

Not everything is binary. The far right don't do nuance so I don't expect you to understand.

Several churches also reported as destroyed by arson , just imagine the furor if this was happening to mosques
 








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Several churches also reported as destroyed by arson , just imagine the furor if this was happening to mosques

It is happening to churches for a reason; because the church forced indigenous Canadian children into religious Christian schools and tortured, starved and murdered them in their thousands before burying them in unmarked graves.

On top of which, how many sacred sites do you think were desecrated by the invading British?


While not a pleasant thing to be doing. I can see where the resentment and anger stems from.
 
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Well they obviously tried to follow legal pathways for years.....but were ignored by those who now dismiss them as 'anarchists'.

SKY NEWS

In closing speeches, defence barristers had argued that the Colston statue - erected in 1895 - had become inappropriate and offensive and that over the years, thousands had signed petitions to have it removed.

"Make no mistake members of the jury, your decision is not just going to be felt in this courtroom or this city," he said. "I urge you all to be on the right side of history."

Tom Wainwright, representing Milo Ponsford, told the court: "If you have a cancer like Colston festering in your city, you cut it out. Only once it's gone that the body can heal."
 
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Hope today sets a precedent, we don't want statues of murderers in public places

A great day for the progressive city of Bristol
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Hope today sets a precedent, we don't want statues of murderers in public places

A great day for the progressive city of Bristol

You are correct, however I’m not sure you should be able to just rip them down.

Churchill/Mandela/Nelson/Washington etc all have another side to them - can we rip them down?

Maybe a city/town debate/vote on taking them down v a sign saying why they are controversial is the way forward.
 


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