[Albion] VAR - Man of the match

[Sheebo]

Before VAR, that game would have finished 1-3 0r 2-3 Leicester.

But I guess I will take it on the chin

Why? The Lino gave EVERY decision - VAR gave nothing?!

 

[Dave Fishwick]

always loved VAR.

the victim mentality that quite a few fan bases have in this league over it is pathetic. Norwich, Leicester, Arsenal. Probably others I've missed

 

[Sheebo]

Yes the subjectivity is whether he was blocking Sanchez view and therefore interfering. Could have gone either way but once the lino called it not enough in it to over turn.

It’s not just the blocking view. If you’re standing next to the keeper you’re impeding their potential dive etc. He actually made contact with Sanchez I think just before the header. So think both were offside. But we need to defend set pieces much, much better again.

 

[Lethargic]

Sh1t happens.

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[Mr deez]

always loved VAR.

the victim mentality that quite a few fan bases have in this league over it is pathetic. Norwich, Leicester, Arsenal. Probably others I've missed

I despise var, luckily it didn't have anything to do with the decision making today. How it should be.

 

[dazzer6666]

Lino called both offsides and the pen............VAR agreed with him on all of them. Would I be pissed off it all of them had happened at the other end ? Yes, would be cursing our 'luck' but hey ho, rub of the green and all that............the pen for me (for example) only evens out Maupay getting pushed over by Tarkowski. We now know for sure the kind of things being allowed to go by the refs.

 

[Guinness Boy]

The penalty is debatable, I agree.

But the offsides were not. And I agree Sanchez view was not necessary blocked. But Barnes was in an offside position and by being so close “ interferes with the movement of the opponent” and/or “ impacts on the ability of the opponent to play or challenge for the ball”.

Did Barnes make the same mistake twice or were we deliberately pushing up on the taking of the corner?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Did Barnes make the same mistake twice or were we deliberately pushing up on the taking of the corner?

Good question. Having thought about this I think Barnes and Leicester were a bit dumb to try this tactic as we didn’t have any players on the posts and the balls were being delivered away from the goal. This latter point invites both teams to push up ; he left himself very exposed to being offside. All things considered I think Leicester were stupid.

 

[Gazwag]

Before VAR, that game would have finished 1-3 0r 2-3 Leicester.

But I guess I will take it on the chin

But the pen was given by the lino who also flagged the two disallowed goal so how would that not be 2.1

 

[Lindfield by the Pond]

Always trawl the oppo websites match thread after a game. Foxestalk is "apoplectic" with Mr Attwell.

Penalty decision was greeted with vitriol - why does this always happen to us etc.

1st VAR over rule of their "equaliser" was greeted with many different 4 letter words.

2nd VAR decision is having fans running to grab the first available razor blade.

Favourite comment "Clearer than ever today that VAR is all about protecting the establishment. Scandalous bullsh*t."

We are the establishment !! (well according to this muppet

 

[Brovion]

You are all missing the point. We know that VAR favours the Top Six. And we're currently in the Top Six, so .....

 

[Hotchilidog]

The offsides were totally correct.

You can't just stand in front of the keeper in an offside position like that. It obviously distracts even if marginally and 100% is offside.

The penalty was definitely a handball, but the argument would be whether Maupay fouled or not... For me this was a 50/50 and wouldn't have been too upset if it wasn't given.

I agree. I do not understand the fuss about the offsides, barnes was clearly offside both times as we did not leave a man on the post. Prior to both kicks he was jostling with Sanchez whether he was in his sightline when the headers came in is irrelevant when the interference had already occurred when the corner was taken, the offence was committed as soon as the ball left the corner taker's foot.

As for the penalty, what maupay did in my opinion was a foul, and we were fortunate. However there does appear to be a different standard applied to physical contact in corner kick situations, that sort of behaviour goes on all the time without it being called out by the officials. That said given that is ok for Tarkowski to flatten Maupay at a corner I'll not be apologising for getting the rub of green on this occasion.

 

[Superphil]

Before VAR, that game would have finished 1-3 0r 2-3 Leicester.

But I guess I will take it on the chin

Linesman flagged both offsides didn't he? Also he called the ref over regarding the penalty too.

 

[Superphil]

“If any one of my players isn’t interfering with play, they’re not getting paid.”
Brian Clough.

Barnes was there, in the eyeline, in the way, and a cause for concern for Sanchez and our defence, he was offside. Linesman saw it, clear as day on VAR. If you are standing in the middle of the six yard box at a corner, you ARE interfering with play, end of story.

 

[Bozza]

Linesman flagged both offsides didn't he? Also he called the ref over regarding the penalty too.

Indeed - the angst at VAR shown by the likes Gary Lineker and fuming Leicester fans phoning up 606 all misses the point - all three decisions were given on the field of play.

VAR didn't make the decisions, VAR's job was to determine if a clear and obvious error had been made by the on-the-field officials.

 

[Robinjakarta]

Penalty? Nah. Maupay foul. Leicester free kick.

Offsides? Yes, both of them.

Lucky? Yes, with the penalty and being dominated for much of the second half, BUT ..

.. we are still owed and deserve luck after the lack of it last season.

 

[Uh_huh_him]

It’s not just the blocking view. If you’re standing next to the keeper you’re impeding their potential dive etc. He actually made contact with Sanchez I think just before the header. So think both were offside. But we need to defend set pieces much, much better again.

Rodgers admitted that Barnes was placed there to stop Sanchez coming for the cross.
Apparently he had a great take and quick release in the first half, which prompted Rodgers to place him there.

How he can then be considered to not be interfering with play is beyond me.

 

[tigertim68]

The penalty wasn't 50/50. Maupay had a hold of him and as he moved towards the ball tightened his grip. He was struggling to jump hence the flaying arm. Astonishing decision.

The refs have been told to ignore soft fouls and to let the game flow , hence BURNLEYS GOAL STOOD and a penalty was awarded yesterday

 

[tigertim68]

Penalty? Nah. Maupay foul. Leicester free kick.

Offsides? Yes, both of them.

Lucky? Yes, with the penalty and being dominated for much of the second half, BUT ..

.. we are still owed and deserve luck after the lack of it last season.[/QUOTE7

Was not lucky , for a change the officials got all decisions right

 

[Sheebo]

Rodgers admitted that Barnes was placed there to stop Sanchez coming for the cross.
Apparently he had a great take and quick release in the first half, which prompted Rodgers to place him there.

How he can then be considered to not be interfering with play is beyond me.

Yes but he’s not offside at that point - only when N’didi headers it is offside and interfering then an issue - nothing before it… but yes, it’s a risky thing to do and it’s one of those really that’s down to a bit of interpretation but think we got a bit lucky there tbh.