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[Politics] Brexit

If there was a second Brexit referendum how would you vote?


  • Total voters
    1,081






Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
45,919
at home
But but but I didn't realise we'd lost it, seems most of it is still here! What part did we lose?

All of it seemly.

The time has come for rejoicing, and dancing and singing in the streets, we have it all back. Fabulous...pounds shillings and pence, half a crowns, sixpenses, feet, inches, gallons, pints,florins, groats, chains.

It will be brilliant.
 


AK74

Bright-eyed. Bushy-tailed. GSOH.
NSC Patreon
Jan 19, 2010
1,187
I'd have more confidence in him..

Dr Fox is reminiscent of a young Doc Cox in that picture.

Come to think of it, I'd have more confidence in him too.

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The Clamp

Well-known member
NSC Patreon
Jan 11, 2016
24,272
West is BEST
Well I quite often do YouGov polls among others,and perhaps sometimes I might have a bit of a laugh with the answers.I bet I am not the only one!


I hope your well braced, Lad. And have put aside some of your JSA because Birmingham is in for a rough, rough ride if we leave the EU...

Just take a look at what EU money has done for your city. It transformed it from concrete Hell-hole. Another reason I don't like Leave voters, ungrateful bunch of entitled yobs.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...nding-11028563


1. The International Convention Centre

Cherie and Tony Blair with Bill and Hilary Clinton at the ICC in 1998
The EU chipped in £50 million towards the ICC and Symphony Hall which opened for business in 1991. It most famously welcomed global leaders, including Presidents Bill Clinton and Boris Yeltsin to the 1998 G8 Summit. Each year it hosts some 350 events including political and business conferences bringing hundreds of thousands of visitors to the city.

2. The NEC
National Exhibition Centre
National Exhibition Centre
There was further help for the city’s conference and exhibition industry with a £30 million cheque towards the refurbishment of the NEC - which of course is home to Crufts and many other major shows bringing thousands more to the city.

3. The West Coast Mainline
Virgin train
Virgin train (Image: Martin Keene/PA Wire)
Remember the upgrade of railway linking Birmingham to London, the North West and Scotland and reducing journey times in the process? The EU paid £66 million towards that.

4. Breaking the Concrete Collar

The demolition of Masshouse Circus
Those folks in Brussels helped Birmingham rid itself of one its biggest mistakes of the 1960s. It paid £9.1 million towards the redevelopment of Masshouse Circus in 2002, including the breaking of the Queensway flyover, known as the concrete collar, which had held back the expansion of the city centre for more than a generation.

5. The Town Hall

The inside of the Town Hall in Birmingham in order to help kids with autism.
Built in 1834 the Town Hall is the city’s premier historic building. But just over decade ago it was in a pretty sorry state, covered in soot and neglected. The EU, with a £3 million handout, was among a number of backers which saw it cleaned-up, its stonework restored and its interior refurbished and reopened in 2007.

6. Millennium Point
The Spitfire Gallery, Thinktank
The Spitfire Gallery, Thinktank
The home of the Thinktank Museum and Birmingham City University was completed in 2000, it was, through a £25.6 million investment, the the UK’s largest ERDF funded project at the time.

7. Innovation Hub

Over £6 million invested in Innovation Birmingham, the former Aston Science Park, bringing digital and high technology businesses and jobs to the city.

8. Jobs for young people

(Image: Pic: Gareth Fuller/PA Wire)
Only last month the city council accepted a £33 million EU social fund grant towards its scheme to get 16,000 Brummies, aged under 30, into employment .

9. Backing for business
Business
Business
Between 2007 and 2013, as the economy nose-dived, the European Regional Development Fund provided financial support for 24,910 West Midlands based businesses

10. The Assay Office
CGI of the converted Assay Office in Newhall Street
CGI of the converted Assay Office in Newhall Street
At the centre of Birmingham’s historic Jewellery Quarter is the Assay Office - one of the few places that precious metals can be tested and hall marked. Part of the cost of its expansion and relocation last year was covered with a £1.5 million EU grant.

11. MG Rover Task Force
Rover's Longbridge plant in Birmingham pictured in June 2003
Rover's Longbridge plant in Birmingham pictured in June 2003
The collapse of MG Rover in 2005 directly caused 6,000 redundancies, plus many further losses along the supply chains. The task force was set up to create jobs, invest and help get those workers back into employment. More than a third of its £176 million pot came from EU emergency funds.

12. University research
Chemistry apprentice
Chemistry apprentice
No wonder some of our universities are keen on the UK remaining in the EU. In the West Midlans alone between 2007 and 2013 universities benefited to the tune of about £260 million, funding research into health, food, energy, climate change and transport. They are receiving similar amounts under the new funding package.

13. Birmingham International Dance Festival
Performers at Birmingham's International Dance Festival
Performers at Birmingham's International Dance Festival
Grants totalling £741,000 over six years helped get the festival launched in 2008 and established. In 2014 the festival was estimated to be worth £2.6 million to the city’s visitor economy.

14. The African-Caribbean Millennium Centre

Chairman Martin Blissett outside the African-Caribbean Millennium Centre in Winson Green in 2004.
The EU gave £530,000 towards the setting up of this vital community centre in Winson Green.

15. The Nishkam Centre

Performance at the Nishkam Centre, Handsworth
The ERDF stumped up £2.5 million, of the £6 million cost of developing this facility for the Sikh community and wider population of Handsworth. It opened in 2006.


You really don't have the first clue what you have done.
 








GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,470
Gloucester
All of it seemly.

The time has come for rejoicing, and dancing and singing in the streets, we have it all back. Fabulous...pounds shillings and pence, half a crowns, sixpenses, feet, inches, gallons, pints,florins, groats, chains.

It will be brilliant.
Don't be silly. We can't do that to future generations!








They'd never be able to manage the complexities of the tables for imperial measures...................................................
 




















Publius Ovidius

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
45,919
at home
No deal no money. It's the EU they are driven/ruled by it. No deal wont happen they want their divorce bill

That is a legal thing and is calculated on shares of deals that the eu have done on behalf of all the members over 45 years.

The government wouldn't dare welch on that or have the justification.

No deal is about trade etc, not about what we owe
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,588
portslade
That is a legal thing and is calculated on shares of deals that the eu have done on behalf of all the members over 45 years.

The government wouldn't dare welch on that or have the justification.

No deal is about trade etc, not about what we owe

Thought the divorce settlement was over and above that. We are still paying into projects that remain ongoing.
 


sir albion

New member
Jan 6, 2007
13,055
SWINDON
Which will go to parliament due to Vote Leave breaking the law, parliament will vote it down, we go back to back to a time when everyone was happier.
Breaking the law???
Christ who gave Cameron £9 million of tax payers money to distribute remain leaflets to every single door?

We had a vote and we voted out....Why o why do I still keep on hearing about the remain and leave team as these two are bloody irrelevant now surely !!!
Let's leave with dignity and get the hell on with it as I'm bored shitless of hearing about these boring parliament votes that never seem to end.
Our government have been nothing but an embarrassment for way to many years :nono:
 






ManOfSussex

We wunt be druv
Apr 11, 2016
14,729
Rape of Hastings, Sussex
No deal no money. It's the EU they are driven/ruled by it. No deal wont happen they want their divorce bill

As has been pointed out, there's little things called our treaty obligations which we've always observed and the fact we've never reneged on what we owe as a country.

We're headed for no deal because of the chaos in Westminister. There's nothing The EU can currently offer that could that would command a majority in parliament.
 


Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patreon
Jul 16, 2003
57,845
hassocks
Not content with voting against having the right to ratify international trade treaties, Parliament has voted against even requiring the Government to show them their contents.

Parliament does not apparently want to be sovereign any longer.


Lol

Complete opposite of what Brexit folk voted for
 



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