[Albion] Stoke, Southampton, Swansea & Huddersfield. Remaining Fixtures.

Brovion · Apr 30, 2018

GT49er said:
Exactly. Only two of the four teams below us have to go on any sort of run - the other two teams merely have to win one match. You can't explain that to some people though - even though we now have a very good chance of staying up, mathematically we are not there yet.
Us getting relegated from where we are now is indeed unlikely - but until there are three teams that can't catch us, it could still happen; things do sometimes happen in football that defy all odds - and all those celebrating now could end up looking as daft as Reading fans on the last day of the 2013-2014 season.........
I wonder if they're the same people who celebrated us winning the Championship last year?

'Only' two of the teams below us!

Ain't. Gonna. Happen.

That point at Burnley finally tipped it for me, I harboured a bit of doubt up until then. And no I didn't celebrate winning the championship last year. I said on another thread that it's a totally different dynamic at the top where you HAVE to keep winning to maintain your position, the same thing doesn't apply at the bottom. A five point gap at the top of the table with three games to go is nothing. At the bottom it's a chasm.

Triggaaar · Apr 30, 2018

Brovion said:
Still means they've got to win a third of their remaining fixtures, meaning they've got to show something better than they've managed so far. I'm quite expecting one or two of them to do it, meaning that I am expecting our finishing position to be lower than we are currently, but we will be safe.

We all expect we'll be safe, we're 66-1 to go down. But let's not exaggerate, they do not need to hit West Brom form.

Is it PotG? · Apr 30, 2018

Triggaaar · Apr 30, 2018

Is it PotG? said:
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Brovion · Apr 30, 2018

Triggaaar said:
We all expect we'll be safe, we're 66-1 to go down. But let's not exaggerate, they do not need to hit West Brom form.

Yes, rather pedantically you took me a bit too literally! I should have said "start winning some games which no one apart from West Brom have managed recently". But 'West Brom form' was a bit snappier.

Triggaaar · Apr 30, 2018

Brovion said:
Yes, rather pedantically you took me a bit too literally!

How very unlike me.

I should have said "start winning some games which no one apart from West Brom have managed recently".

But they don't need to win 'some games' do they, they just need to win 1! FFS

Brovion · Apr 30, 2018

Triggaaar said:
How very unlike me.
But they don't need to win 'some games' do they, they just need to win 1! FFS

No, only half them have to win one game. (My turn to be pedantic!)

Triggaaar · Apr 30, 2018

Brovion said:
No, only half them have to win one game. (My turn to be pedantic!)

No, you're misreading the post. I'm not saying Swansea can lose all but one, I'm saying they don't need to win two, the number that they actually have to win in only one. They don't need West Brom form.

GT49er · Apr 30, 2018

Kalimantan Gull said:
Do you feel a bit happier having read the above GT? ...I was still a bit nervous but reading that long list of assumptions and precise results needed to topple us, it all feels very unlikely indeed and I now feel a lot more confident of staying up...

Where have I said I'm unhappy? I'm very pleased with what we've achieved so far this season, and I don't think there's much chance of getting relegated now. But actually safe we are not. 'Nearly safe', 'almost safe', 'probably safe' - I'm fine with anybody saying that - I'd agree with them! Just very much not a fan of premature celebration - it can come back and bite you, and any mockery received as a result is thoroughly deserved!

Hiney · Apr 30, 2018

dazzer6666 said:
It kind of is though....struggling to think of one that's good enough........

ANY Premier League referee would be better than 90% of the ones on this list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_officials

dazzer6666 · Apr 30, 2018

Hiney said:
ANY Premier League referee would be better than 90% of the ones on this list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup_officials

Probably fair......most county standard refs are probably better than a lot of them................it's all about inclusion though eh ?

Hiney · Apr 30, 2018

dazzer6666 said:
Probably fair......most county standard refs are probably better than a lot of them................it's all about inclusion though eh ?

Up to a point.

IMO, it's absolutely ridiculous that games between top nations could be refereed by Norbert Hauata from Tahiti

hans kraay fan club · Apr 30, 2018

Hiney said:
Up to a point.

IMO, it's absolutely ridiculous that games between top nations could be refereed by Norbert Hauata from Tahiti

Why?

Norbert might be a fantastic ref.

Not Andy Naylor · Apr 30, 2018

I have to admit that I'd enjoy seeing any of Swansea, Huddersfield and Stains going down. Swansea probably most because Carvalhal was being praised as such a miracle-working genius when they got two streaky wins against Liverpool and Arsenal and since then he's been revealed as the same bloke who needed four injuries and a terrible ref to get the MASSIVE past us in the play-offs.

Brovion · Apr 30, 2018

Triggaaar said:
No, you're misreading the post. I'm not saying Swansea can lose all but one, I'm saying they don't need to win two, the number that they actually have to win in only one. They don't need West Brom form.

I think you're misreading mine! Try it again.

Bold Seagull · Apr 30, 2018

hans kraay fan club said:
Why?

Norbert might be a fantastic ref.

Or the biggest fixture he's ever officiated was a Fisherman's XI v Surfer & Lifeguard XI in front of 200 people on a Sunday afternoon*.

*VAR was not in use.

Weststander · Apr 30, 2018

hans kraay fan club said:
Why?

Norbert might be a fantastic ref.

This.

He may have done a great job in WC qualifiers.

nicko31 · Apr 30, 2018

Not Andy Naylor said:
I have to admit that I'd enjoy seeing any of Swansea, Huddersfield and Stains going down. Swansea probably most because Carvalhal was being praised as such a miracle-working genius when they got two streaky wins against Liverpool and Arsenal and since then he's been revealed as the same bloke who needed four injuries and a terrible ref to get the MASSIVE past us in the play-offs.

The only team I can honestly say I'd enjoying going down apart from Palace, is West Ham...

Machiavelli · Apr 30, 2018

Not Andy Naylor said:
I have to admit that I'd enjoy seeing any of Swansea, Huddersfield and Stains going down. Swansea probably most because Carvalhal was being praised as such a miracle-working genius when they got two streaky wins against Liverpool and Arsenal and since then he's been revealed as the same bloke who needed four injuries and a terrible ref to get the MASSIVE past us in the play-offs.

I'm no fan of Carvalhal, but:
-- I want Saints to go down, as they're the most likely to stay up next season
-- if Swansea stay up and Carvalhal is given money to re-build them over the summer, he'll make an even big a mess of them

Weststander · Apr 30, 2018

Not Andy Naylor said:
I have to admit that I'd enjoy seeing any of Swansea, Huddersfield and Stains going down. Swansea probably most because Carvalhal was being praised as such a miracle-working genius when they got two streaky wins against Liverpool and Arsenal and since then he's been revealed as the same bloke who needed four injuries and a terrible ref to get the MASSIVE past us in the play-offs.

At the peak of Swansea’s revival when they were winning and drawing every game for fun including Arsenal, a 5Live show asked Lawro if Swansea could be excluded fron the relegation mix.

He emphatically said that Swansea would be part of the mix, because they had been at the bottom prior to that for very good reasons.

He for one didn’t fall for the Carvahal messiah hype. The rest of the media saw Swansea as an Everton, ascending naturally with esse.

Lawro’s often laughed at, but fair do’s to the bloke.

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