Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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I was agreeing with you.
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[Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?
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I was agreeing with you.
Leekbrookgull
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What is the point of a vote of no confidence when you don't have the numbers ?
Horton's halftime iceberg
Blooming Marvellous
When you do not have power, its all you can do.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Absolutely sterling work from the 'no deal' Brexiteers
Bye Bye Brexit
Bye Bye Brexit
Pevenseagull
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- Jul 20, 2003
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****ing Chris Grayling on, grinning and explaining how everything will work out when they've all had a chat.
What a ****
What a ****
Sussex Nomad
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Didn't he say the same about Southern Railway?
He's the only one capable of uniting the house. Against him, that is.
Today's vote was against the deal, because she was charged with getting a deal that none of them want. That doesn't mean they think Corbyn would do a better job, I'm sure they don't.
Horton's halftime iceberg
Blooming Marvellous
Her flagship policy/deal is a record defeat. What rabbit does she need to pull out of the hat to have any credibility or sell to people/MPs. We have a failed prime minister and government.
Nice idea. . . . A general election won't fix it . . . It'll be a hung parliament, then more chaos, the only option will be can the whole thing or a people's vote, what the options are is the next issue. In/out or other shit sandwich I guess
nicko31
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Should have taken May's "Jam Tomorrow" deal. Just got too greedy consumed by their own cult, now risk no Brexit or very soft one.
jessiejames
Never late in a V8
Who won then?
Horton's halftime iceberg
Blooming Marvellous
If only we had a voting system that would allow that sort of thing to happen. As it is. Zero chance.
Kalimantan Gull
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We will replay this game, next season.
Ironic the comparison with Russia and China. One decision has been made, three years ago, and now you are demanding an authoritarian respect of that decision, shutting down all debate, any chance to revisit the decision, opposing views - if anything in our politics is comparable with those countries it is 'Leave means Leave'
Raleigh Chopper
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There is something undeniably creepy about Chris Grayling, I just can't stand to look at him on TV.
And along with John Redwood they are both total drips.
Kalimantan Gull
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Ignoring and subverting a democratic result is good?
You had a chance to leave the EU today, nothing I or any remainers could have done about it. The Brexiteers didn't take it.
So I think we can consign the 2016 referendum to history now. We need to resolve this issue, and a second referendum is the most democratic way to do it
A mex eyecan
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that was the choice of those who decided to have no voice, unless of course people were blocking their path into the polling station.
Seagullroyal
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I keep hearing this from Remoaners hoping for a change?
What happens if we have a second Referendum and we vote the same again?
A mex eyecan
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from the day of the referendum no one was ever going to win, which ever way they voted, outs would have voted out for differing reasons. Equals split 1, 2,3 etc. remains would have voted for differing reasons. Split 5,6,7 etc.
Commons vote. Tory’s split over in and out, each for various reasons, 10,11,12 etc. Labour split over in and out, each for their own reasons, splits 15,16,17 etc. And on and on and on.
So another people’s vote by definition won’t reconcile a 100% consensus . Commons debate likewise. Twas always going to be thus and no matter what happens now or how we get there, will always be thus.
Next time people desire a referendum or not, on any matter be careful what you wish for, you may well get it. By the way I wanted a referendum, not so sure as I would be so cavalier to want one again. My views of remain or out make no difference to how I feel about that.