For a second ref May would have to resign.
I cant see it with her in charge, I say in charge....
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[Politics] Tonight,s EU vote and the margin of defeat ?
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For a second ref May would have to resign.
I cant see it with her in charge, I say in charge....
What is it that makes you think there won't be another referendum?
Me too.
Hitler was democratically elected. He used the same sort of people and threats of violence to gain and hold power.
The Birdman
New member
It's a shame she didint do the count
I'm not sure i understand what a sociopolitical disaster is. How would that manifest itself? As for destroying faith in democracy, i would suggest whatever the outcome that is likely as you say for millions in the country.
Yes, I find these people frightening too. The best solution, in my opinion (and I actually wrote this down in a notebook in 1972) is to repatriate all foreigners (and by that I mean all people with dark skin, wherever they were born) right now, no debate, in order to avoid future rivers of blood.
I wrote that when I was 14. Then I decided that perhaps this approach might be a tad unreasonable. A few years later I had my first conversation with a black person, and he spoke English clearly and didn't make any attempt to eat me.
Sorry, the best way to deal with the worst racists and bigots is to grow some and oppose them at every turn. If they kick off, **** 'em. We have a police force and laws.
(There is always an argument for ensuring we have a few racist laws to stop lunatics from attacking people in the street; it is akin to some Islamic ideas that women should cover themselves to stop men raping them. It is indefensible.)
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Only a died in the wool Tory would consider that they could be any worse than the incompetent tossers we currently have "running" the country. I'm not saying this lightly, but I honestly believe a cabinet made up of Corbyn, O'Donnell and Abbot would do no worse than May, Gove and Grayling - and they wouldn't be so arrogant in office as to treat the opposition with complete contempt until it's too late either.
May wins the no confidence vote. She eyeballs the country and asks what do you want then? My deal or no deal? She makes some window dressing amendments and her deal is reluctantly passed - or we crash out.
¡Cereal Killer!
Whale Oil Beef Hooked
I am starting to think a 2nd referendum is the way to go. This time people will know leaving the EU means to them and the country, which no one knew the 1st time around.
I voted leave and although I do not regret voting leave, if the country votes to remain in the EU, I will respect that decision.
I voted leave and although I do not regret voting leave, if the country votes to remain in the EU, I will respect that decision.
That may be the case, but my understanding is that the window dressing deal would need agreement by EU. Not sure they would do that. And also as i understand it, there is probably a mechanism within parliament to force no deal off of the table. Either way it is going to be an interesting couple of weeks.
Sure. I agree.
I’m just pointing out a reality.
It seems some people are pushing for a second vote as if the worst that could happen as a result of that , is a robust row on question time .
If a second vote is announced there could be serious consequences. It will open the door to nasty morons to behave like nasty morons.
You see, this is total horse shit. By their very nature referendums do not destroy faith in democracy. They might be ill advised (as we have discovered), but hyperbole like this doesn't help.
I bet that if I said it was a referendum that required something like a 60% vote in favour of staying in the EU in order to overturn the previous referendum result, then those that think we should leave would be up for it.
At the first referendum, there was no deal on the table - which is why that referendum was always advisory, although the Tory party seized it and May turned it into her foolish Brexit means Brexit mantra - now there is a deal on the table. A second referendum would vote on that.
I don’t think a second ref is the way forward if it has WTO on it, that’s madness and no Government should give it as an option.
One thing is for certain, there's no certainty in anything.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
There are a few nasty morons but not very many. The country shouldn't be held to ransom because of them.
People won’t do anything, they say they will on the express website but they won’t.
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
always. But its true, for all the criticism of those of us wanting to keep the UK in the EU, we could have been shut down once and for all yesterday. And we weren't.
I agree for certain.