daveinprague
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So despite giving an oath to protect and defend the USA in their military capacity, they are actually thinking about treason against elected governments if their views are not respected?
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[Misc] Here We Go Again - Breaking News Florida Shooting At High School
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So despite giving an oath to protect and defend the USA in their military capacity, they are actually thinking about treason against elected governments if their views are not respected?
Tyrone Biggums
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Less bloodshed.
Why can't a responsible gun owner own one if they want?
I question those USA today claims. Where exactly was the Montana mass shooting for example?
Tyrone Biggums
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Military coups often occur when corrupt Governments over step their powers.
daveinprague
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Not sure that wanting less people killed in mass shootings is corrupt or overstepping powers tbh
BBassic
I changed this.
- Jul 28, 2011
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looney would be able to take a post about why I have so many odd socks and turn it into some sort of Jihadist conspiracy. It's quite the art-form he's perfected.
Tyrone Biggums
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Many would see a Government legislating to remove peoples guns from them well overstepping the mark and a Government that is acting in an unconstitutional way.
Many Americans live by the constitution, not what a politician says.
TWOCHOICEStom
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They can. But there should be greater control of who can legally own a gun, how it's stored, how many you can have and most importantly, what TYPE of guns are legal... just my opinion.
daveinprague
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Sounds like they live by irrational paranoia to me.
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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Quite. It might prove to be a long term effort to ban handguns in America, but they really need to be asking themselves why US citizens, especially teenage kids, are allowed to buy smoke grenades,assault rifles and unlimited ammunition. Not too many valid innocent reasons for buying those I'd have thought.
Tyrone Biggums
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You contradicted yourself by saying they can and then reeled of a bunch of things that would greatly restrict their ability to own what they wished and in some cases turn a law abiding citizen into a criminal if you make certain guns illegal.
Tyrone Biggums
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I'd say they are spot on to not trust Governments.
Governments should not have the right to tell people how to live if they keep to themselves.
Tom Bombadil
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No they don't military coups happen when corrupt military leaders think they can grab control of a countries assets or aren't being paid off enough by weak dictators.
TWOCHOICEStom
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I don't think I'm contradicting myself at all. People can own guns. But they can't own whatever and however many guns they like.
looney
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 15,652
Wow thats original...not.
Blackadder
Brighton Bhuna Boy
....But not buy an alcoholic drink!!!
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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It is so sad that shit keeps happening and they still can't find some compromise. As soon as someone suggests some simple controls on guns and their uses the NRA halfwits etc start banging on about 'taking away our guns'. I shouldn't call them halfwits as they are smart enough to control the debate even in the face of people continually dying at the hands of their product.
To me, the gun licensing debate is binary politics at its very worse.
To me, the gun licensing debate is binary politics at its very worse.
Maybe if the US people are unwilling to amend the constitution around gun ownership (and apparently it's sacrilege to amend the constitution, as evidenced by the second amendment being an amendment), maybe the solution is to adhere to the spirit of it as well as the letter and just ban people from owning guns produced after 1788?
That way you can own as many muskets which take two minutes to reload as you like but can't just wander round with semi-automatic weapons capable of slaughtering a hundred people in the blink of an eye?
That way you can own as many muskets which take two minutes to reload as you like but can't just wander round with semi-automatic weapons capable of slaughtering a hundred people in the blink of an eye?
I'd have more respect for them if they just admitted that owning guns is more important to them than their kids not being shot dead.
seagulls4ever
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- Oct 2, 2003
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Can 10/50 states really be defined as 'plenty'?
Using the the narrow definition of 'four or more killed', according to the page sourced below, 40 states have experienced a mass shooting event, including Hawaii. I think using a broader definition, probably every state has.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/mass-shootings-in-america/
Tyrone Biggums
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Not always so.
Egyptian Army removed the Muslim Brotherhood because of what that party represented.
Other nations have also had coups and returned to democracy.