How about we keep the discussion to the terrorist attacks in Spain, like [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] has politely asked you to?
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How about we keep the discussion to the terrorist attacks in Spain, like [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] has politely asked you to?
I would say rather than 'almost impossible' which the experts all say - let's face it - it *is* impossible.
cunning fergus
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- Jan 18, 2009
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If you are right here, and there is evidence to support your logic, then it is perfectly understandable why Eastern European countries like Hungary are resisting EU demands to distribute Muslim migrants.
It's too late for countries like the UK and France, there are sizeable Muslim communities now insitu........prevention is far better than cure.
I'm sure you will agree.
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Yes, I agree 100% that refusing to accept any muslim refugees is an understandable position. Everyone can understand why that is an obvious reaction.
The risks of terrorism, etc ought to be balanced though against other considerations - a nation's legal, and moral obligations, for example.
Wellesley
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- Jul 24, 2013
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I don't understand why in a thread about Islamic terrorism, we are not allowed to have an adult debate about Islam and it's many barbaric practices. This is not hate speech, it's a perfectly reasonable debate on an ideology that is having a major affect on our society. But ok, you are the man with the power.
portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
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LBC just had an interesting caller, a Muslim from Manchester that ranted at the presenter (also Muslim) for not also believing we should still be cutting off peoples limbs for stealing a sweet. At the same time as condemning ISIS.
And that's why I don't want anymore overseas Muslims here in the UK. It took us hundreds of years to stop such barbaric practices and beliefs here and I have no wish to go back. Until they've caught up with the modern world, I'm quite happy they stay in their continually at war homelands.
And that's why I don't want anymore overseas Muslims here in the UK. It took us hundreds of years to stop such barbaric practices and beliefs here and I have no wish to go back. Until they've caught up with the modern world, I'm quite happy they stay in their continually at war homelands.
portlock seagull
Why? Why us?
- Jul 28, 2003
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Because people are terrified of offending someone. Being branded a racist kills all conversation and whether you are or not, you are if someone calls you that. Hence its misuse especially by minorities and extreme liberalists. They know it's a trump card and that defending yourself against such accusations will fall on deaf ears. Like being called a Paedo, you are (even if you aren't). Game set match AND CHAMPIONSHIP!
I'm not - I've made quite clear I'll not moderate a thread I'm involved in. The site owner has made a reasonable request - it would be polite to heed it. Your opening post in this thread was far from 'an adult debate' as it is possible to get. Such language will inevitably see threads moved or deleted, as they descend into nastiness and name calling.
Thunder Bolt
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The tragic irony is that the Muslim refugees are fleeing the same terror of Isis.
The_Viper
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Do I blame all of the Muslims or only this one guy? Someone please help me out here. I am very confused with how we're doing this after the Trump topic and the Nazi idiot in Charlottesville.
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And others are using exactly that to get access to the people they wish to kill.
Wellesley
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I started to reply to your post but deleted it because I really can't be bothered. There are many that agree with me whether or not you deem it childish or nasty.
Thunder Bolt
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A slight adjustment needed here as the SSNP was formed in 1932, so is Nazi, not neo-Nazi.
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/898481616540008448
[tweet]898481616540008448[/tweet]
cunning fergus
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I think this is where our opinions may depart.
In my opinion truly sovereign governments have a primary responsibility to keep their own citizens safe before anything else.
There is absolutely nothing that should circumvent that obligation. It's why for many British people (and European people for that matter) the EU's fixed adherence to freedom of movement is a problem.
Placing other "moral" obligations (or the like) on the same level is deriliction of this core responsibility and those who feel that way should be honest enough to say that the victims of these atrocities are just the price we have to pay.
A kinda, this is what it means to live in a big city type view.
I'm not saying I am right, just how I think......prevention is always better than cure.
Does that include an obligation to protect your own population?
Thunder Bolt
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https://twitter.com/BBCBreaking/status/898501324467089408
[tweet]898501324467089408[/tweet]
Being pedantic, the Manchester arena guy was born here to Libyan refugees.
The vast majority of terror attacks in Britain have been committed by British nationals,
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
We took in millions of refugees after the war. They weren't all white christians. As my previous post said, the attacks here have been done by British nationals, but radicalised here. The Westminster attacker was from Kent and a converted Muslim.
The internet is used by ISIS, to convert and radicalise people here. Very few jihadis have come here with refugees.
alfredmizen
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Is this you ? Obviously not but you both seem to have a remarkable talent for avoiding the unpalatable truth , or at least avoiding stating it in explicit terms
Thunder Bolt
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Tom Hark Preston Park
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Not read the entire thread, just most of it. Anybody able to confirm how many times you've used the "I'm not a racist, but..." line? I counted two. But that was a few hours ago. Presumably you've got the hat-trick up by now and get to keep the match ball. Well done
