Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I know. So why aren't you conceding that the play off up there was also a one off and that their atmosphere is usually nothing like as good?
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Nixonator
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While I agree our home atmosphere has room for massive improvements, i'm somewhat confused at the last statement.
Having been to 15+ away games every season for many years, there really aren't many examples of envy. In recent times i'd say:
v Huddersfield - they were mauling us and their drum sounded good, believe me it usually does not.
v Massive - Playoff semi, beating us and down to 10men for most of 2nd half..
v Boro - Do or die promotion match, drum sounded good - probably the best of the lot. Just two seasons earlier the place was a morgue.
v Derby - Playoff semi, mauling us.
Take the rosy specs off.
The Goldstone was no different to now, if anything it was probably worse, even in the glory days.
Quite possibly the last time this came up Wade v Newcastle was highlighted as a brilliant raucous evening, then someone posted the extended highlights, including hearing the players calling for the ball.
When thinking back to the Goldstone you're thinking of the equivalent matches then to this season's Wednesday, Norwich et al.
Not the games that correspond with Burton.
[MENTION=338]smudge[/MENTION] is correct TBF. The Goldstone in the mid to late 70s was nothing like the Amex now.
If the North Stand at the Goldstone started a song most in that stand joined in and sang, we didn't have the other half of the stand singing something different.
In the first 5 minutes of the Ipswich game last week the North Stand had at least 2 different songs being sang at the same time.
Mr Bridger
Sound of the suburbs
My fault , didn't realise you went to Hillsborough every game as well.
As per the other examples Boro, Huddersfield, they have it every game and the more you do it, fans will get to know what the score is and join in.
You don't give it a go then you will never know.
Mackenzie
Old Brightonian
Never been to any of those grounds you've mentioned but I have been to Reading, Bristol City, Cardiff and palace, you know stadiums broadly comparable to our own in terms of size and culture, and can categorically say that the (drum) experience there has been absolutely TINPOT and highly irritating. As one off games you can grin and bear it, but having that racket forced down your throat every other week would be dreadful.
Trelford Mills Guide Dog
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- Jun 14, 2008
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I agree with this.
'Real Madrid, Barcelona, Dortmund, Atletico, Bayern, Milan' ...
Really ... ?
Come on folks we are Brighton & Hove Albion.
My point is that's a big 'if'.
I understand the frustration of at least 2 singing factions, it's pathetic.
Esp when we all know just how brilliant one united voice sounds.
But we need to get away from the 'it was better in the good old days' fake news.
It wasn't.
Using the Burton game as the yard stick for measurement is as stupid as me countering with the Wednesday play off game.
As supporters we have our limitations, and as hard as it is for some to believe, our limitations are generational.
As said what we have now is pathetic, as is the bullying nature of those on the east stand side of the north.
There's nothing about this that makes me think a drum is the cure all.
If anything to me the logical extension of 1 drum would be ending up with 2 drums, long before we get unity.
The only remedy is more 'bigger' games.
Pretty pink fairy
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how are you going to drone out AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALBION , AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALBION to a drum beat
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DR
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The crowd needs to be rocking in the next two games so bring it on.....
Pretty pink fairy
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That's a good post. I've been to all but a seven of our away games for the last three seasons and other than those you have mentioned I am struggling very hard to think of an atmosphere that was intimidating at a normal run of the mill game. All clubs raise it for the big games but all seater stadiums has generally meant very quiet atmospheres at the majority of games now, with the away crowd more often than not out singing the home.
I'd say we are in the top six for noise in our league. Leeds, Forest, Newcastle (when they can be bothered), Wednesday, Huddersfield and Derby all put up decent showing.
AWAYDAY
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- Jul 21, 2009
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I don't hink the different chants in the north are deliberate factions trying to out do each other.
More than one area start songs (mainly centre and Police Box). The problem is that main singers were spread across the back 7 rows all along the north because this is where we were told standing will be tolerated in the first season.
The solution is to create a block or two of singers (or safe standing area for singers).
The drum may help, I've been opposed but I'm open minded enough to try it being used sparingly. However I don't think it is the solution in its own.
More than one area start songs (mainly centre and Police Box). The problem is that main singers were spread across the back 7 rows all along the north because this is where we were told standing will be tolerated in the first season.
The solution is to create a block or two of singers (or safe standing area for singers).
The drum may help, I've been opposed but I'm open minded enough to try it being used sparingly. However I don't think it is the solution in its own.
how are you going to drone out AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALBION , AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALBION to a drum beat
regards
DR
Even incessant drumming is better than that noise.
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BobbySmith
New member
100% agree, only Tinpot clubs have drums. Think we are safe as Martin Perry said we would never have goal music or a drummer at the Amex, or I think he said 'Over my dead body'. Also cant really understand how a drum makes the whole ground sing the same song, also ask the good Palace fans what they think of the Drummer, they hate it.
I'm sorry but I don't agree.
To me there's quite clearly an animosity with fans actively trying to sing over the chant started elsewhere.
I'll be more than happy to be wrong after playing a little closer attention, but that certainly isn't my gut feeling.
It happens too often to be a victim of circumstance.
Nixonator
Well-known member
Everybody that is passionate enough about improving our home support should really have made more effort to transmit their opinions during the safe-standing debate.
No, it is not a return to terracing but safe-standing in the North would absolutely transform the atmosphere much moreso than a drum, because people who actually want to get involved would be more widespread than just the back few rows.
Already mentioned before the demographic in the North is not what it needs to be and the only way to improve it is to shake things up. Some might argue installing the rail-seating is an irrelevance, just a means to an end in order to shake up the demographic in the stand since people will stand regardless i.e.. forcing someone who wants to sit in silence out, and somebody who wants to get involved will move in.
No, it is not a return to terracing but safe-standing in the North would absolutely transform the atmosphere much moreso than a drum, because people who actually want to get involved would be more widespread than just the back few rows.
Already mentioned before the demographic in the North is not what it needs to be and the only way to improve it is to shake things up. Some might argue installing the rail-seating is an irrelevance, just a means to an end in order to shake up the demographic in the stand since people will stand regardless i.e.. forcing someone who wants to sit in silence out, and somebody who wants to get involved will move in.
Find me the best atmosphere of any fans in stadiums around the world and tell me if they use a drum or not.