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[Football] Russian welcome mat laid out for our fans....



Taybha

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Oct 8, 2008
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My Brother and two mates flew out on Saturday , he text me this morning and pretty much echo's all the good stuff thus far , Bloody hell if i had the chance to go , i would go , of course there maybe trouble at some point , but come on , the greatest sporting event on earth with the chance to see your team play , yes please , most of the don't go advice is probably from people that check to see if it's raining before making their mind up to travel to the Amex :lolol:
 


Southern Scouse

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Jul 21, 2011
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Get a grip mate . Looking like a right fanny

Heard all this before numerous tournaments .

**** all will happen so stop sh itting your pants

Actually, last last I shat my pants was in Marseille in June 1998. I work with lots of Russian interpreters who have told me English fans are being targeted by right wing gangs and by the state.
I’ll be watching in front of the TV, boring as shit, safe as houses. It’s calied experience ....
 






Bob'n'weave

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Nov 18, 2016
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That's completely standard FCO advice that you'd get for all sorts of countries, has probably been like that for the last few years, and makes absolutely no mention of the World Cup whatsoever.

I think the reference to recent tensions would suggest otherwise. Later in the article it goes on to say that anyone arrested will not receive consular support due to the recent breakdown of diplomatic relations.
 




oneillco

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Feb 13, 2013
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Not sure why they target us as our reputation died about 20 years ago and other countries would be a better option.I suspect Poland will be a far better option.

The reputation of England fans abroad is now less about violence (fans of other countries are now better at that) but more about extreme twattery. Look at the Amsterdam match in March and the obnoxious behaviour by the canal (see YouTube). If England fans act in this usual extremely twattish way they will get a world of pain dumped on them in Russia.
 


Springal

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The reputation of England fans abroad is now less about violence (fans of other countries are now better at that) but more about extreme twattery. Look at the Amsterdam match in March and the obnoxious behaviour by the canal (see YouTube). If England fans act in this usual extremely twattish way they will get a world of pain dumped on them in Russia.

Same as the twattish Brighton fans that throw beer around?
 


Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Really? Going to an away up North in the 80"s probably came with far greater risk.

Yep, having been up north in the late 80s and early 90s I can agree.

I remember trouble at Bolton, Wigan, Preston and Stockport. All within a six week period during one season. Oldham were delightful chaps...
 




oneillco

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Feb 13, 2013
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Yep, having been up north in the late 80s and early 90s I can agree.

I remember trouble at Bolton, Wigan, Preston and Stockport. All within a six week period during one season. Oldham were delightful chaps...

Yeah but apart from the aggro there was a fair chance that if you got arrested you would be treated correctly. I wouldn't want to be an England fan in the hands of the Russian police, legal or prison system.
 


Eeyore

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Yeah but apart from the aggro there was a fair chance that if you got arrested you would be treated correctly. I wouldn't want to be an England fan in the hands of the Russian police, legal or prison system.

In the late 80s/early 90s that wasn't a given. Although you stood a chance outside the West Midlands.
 






Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Actually, last last I shat my pants was in Marseille in June 1998. I work with lots of Russian interpreters who have told me English fans are being targeted by right wing gangs and by the state.
I’ll be watching in front of the TV, boring as shit, safe as houses. It’s calied experience ....
In the latest Marseille incident involving Russians all I can say is they attacked about every England fan who wasn't up for it. Heard a few accounts of lads there who had a pop back and the Russians were on their toes. So most likely families and the like will be under the kosh again.
 




Raphael Meade

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Jul 5, 2003
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I was in Russia about 6 weeks ago - it obviously wasn't World Cup related so no idea how the hooligans will behave, but for what it's worth that FCO advice about Brits in Russia in the first post has been the same since the beginning of March (it changed after the back and forth about the poisoning in Salisbury and the St Petersburg consulate was closed) and I had zero problems as a Brit wandering the streets.
 




Gregory2Smith1

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Sep 21, 2011
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Not sure why they target us as our reputation died about 20 years ago and other countries would be a better option.I suspect Poland will be a far better option.

potential last 16

England v Poland

Moscow on a Tuesday night
 


Gregory2Smith1

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Sep 21, 2011
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Yep, having been up north in the late 80s and early 90s I can agree.

I remember trouble at Bolton, Wigan, Preston and Stockport. All within a six week period during one season. Oldham were delightful chaps...

Indeed

Oldham late 70s

if I hadn't pushed the lock down on the van,I'm pretty sure the physco trying to get in would have given me a right shoeing
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Yep, having been up north in the late 80s and early 90s I can agree.

I remember trouble at Bolton, Wigan, Preston and Stockport. All within a six week period during one season. Oldham were delightful chaps...

Oldham are wrong ‘uns.


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Bry Nylon

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Jul 21, 2003
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I can foresee lots of English supporters being arrested for non-existant public order / drinking offences or 'complaints' made to the authorities by hoteliers, and then languishing in some shit-hole prison for days on end as the Russians blame the delay in dealing with them on the lack of UK consular staff following the tit-for-tat expulsions. It's an open goal for the Russian propaganda machine.
 




origigull

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Jun 29, 2009
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Indeed

Oldham late 70s

if I hadn't pushed the lock down on the van,I'm pretty sure the physco trying to get in would have given me a right shoeing
You should have gone in the Bosun van. Less trouble.:)???
 


Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003
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I can foresee lots of English supporters being arrested for non-existant public order / drinking offences or 'complaints' made to the authorities by hoteliers, and then languishing in some shit-hole prison for days on end as the Russians blame the delay in dealing with them on the lack of UK consular staff following the tit-for-tat expulsions. It's an open goal for the Russian propaganda machine.

Same thing happened in Amsterdam to 60 England - literally unbelievable to nick and fine people just because they were English and the twats who caused trouble had all ran off - and there was only 4 of them who started it!
 



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