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[News] British jihadis should they be allowed to return back to the UK ?

Should British jihadis be allowed back into the Uk after fighting abroad ?

  • A simple Yes

    Votes: 9 5.7%
  • A simple No

    Votes: 148 94.3%

  • Total voters
    157


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,606
portslade
Would have been treason in 1945 and a possible firing squad. Can't see how anybody could ever support this. Just invites future problems
 




crookie

Well-known member
Jun 14, 2013
3,310
Back in Sussex
Surely by fighting HM forces, that is disloyalty to the crown, so a treasonable offence. Sadly that's life imprisonment rather than a capital offence these days, but if we can't send them back, then a lifetime in jail, meaning life. At least they can't do any more damage, apart from financially.
 


Feb 23, 2009
22,996
Brighton factually.....
At least they can't do any more damage, apart from financially.

And apart from radicalising their off spring, and everyone they come into contact with inside, it is happening right now in prisons and is a rising problem.

This shit is just getting started, it will roll on for years and years decades in fact.
 


portslade seagull

Well-known member
Jul 19, 2003
17,606
portslade
And apart from radicalising their off spring, and everyone they come into contact with inside, it is happening right now in prisons and is a rising problem.

This shit is just getting started, it will roll on for years and years decades in fact.

Can only see it getting worse. The middle East as a whole is a mess and these issues will continue
 


Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,789
Hove
I expect they'll go bleating off to the European courts (thankfully we'll soon be beyond their jurisdiction) which will no doubt rule they have a right to family life. Fine. We can send their families to join them.

I'm still amazed how deluded people are over Brexit. We will still be signed up to the European Convention of Human Rights, and therefore subject to the European Court of Human Rights and will be after we leave the EU given that is not the EU it is the European Council, a different organisation. This is enshrined in our domestic law by the Human Rights Act 1998. The white paper on a Great Repeal Bill, will mean existing EU law will be preserved after we leave, the Equalities Acts will remain, workers rights from EU law will remain, current European Case law (CJEU) will be preserved. So you are wrong that we will beyond their jurisdiction.
 








nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,575
Gods country fortnightly
I guess it depends under what circumstances. If to face prosecution, yes..
 




ferring seagull

Well-known member
Dec 30, 2010
4,607
Surely by fighting HM forces, and representing an organisation which has murdered UK citizens (amongst other nationalities) that is disloyalty to the crown, so definitely a treasonable offence. Sadly that's life imprisonment rather than a capital offence these days, but if we can't send them back, then a lifetime in jail, meaning life and with similar conditions as 'infidels' would have expected whilst enduring their 'hospitality'. At least they can't do any more damage, apart from financially.
Personally I think they should be shot on sight as suspected of planning a terrorist attack !
I can't believe that the authorities allowed them to leave Raqqa on coaches provided and apparently without having confiscated their weapons - the atrocity in Sinai today may be linked ?
 
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studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
29,611
On the Border
Seems to me that the horse has already bolted and whatever posters views it is too late given reports that over 400 have already returned to the UK, or does everyone who voted no, want these people rounded up and expelled, but where to?
 


dejavuatbtn

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2010
7,192
Henfield
If they were born in Britain then I don't think there'd be much option, so these could be hanged for treason. For those who became British Citizens and effectively have dual nationality, hang them for treason also and send remains back from whence they came.
 






Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,171
Goldstone
They can come back for life imprisonment with no chance of parole.
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
50,171
Goldstone
Seems to me that the horse has already bolted and whatever posters views it is too late given reports that over 400 have already returned to the UK, or does everyone who voted no, want these people rounded up and expelled, but where to?
The morgue.
 




GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,717
Gloucester
concentration camps then

Not quite concentration camps, perhaps, but since a majority of public opinion will not allow them to be executed, some sort of special prison, exclusive to returning jihadis, with no contact with the outside world, no religious privileges, and no release ever. A sort of UK Guantanamo Bay, perhaps.
Of course, if we can find any possibility that they might have threatened US citizens (or interests) at any time, we could just hand the scumbags over to the Yanks (who of course aren't bound by any European conventions on human rights).
 


GT49er

Well-known member
Feb 1, 2009
46,717
Gloucester
I'm still amazed how deluded people are over Brexit. We will still be signed up to the European Convention of Human Rights, and therefore subject to the European Court of Human Rights and will be after we leave the EU given that is not the EU it is the European Council, a different organisation. This is enshrined in our domestic law by the Human Rights Act 1998. The white paper on a Great Repeal Bill, will mean existing EU law will be preserved after we leave, the Equalities Acts will remain, workers rights from EU law will remain, current European Case law (CJEU) will be preserved. So you are wrong that we will beyond their jurisdiction.

We're not talking about workers' rights. Yes, the Convention on Human Rights will remain, but not the supremacy of the ECJ over UK law. And once we're out, we can change any EU laws which we do take on through the Great Repeal Bill - which takes the EU laws into British law, but once there they will be British laws, not EU ones, so Parliament can change them.
And if the Human Rights bods insist that they have 'a right to family life', fine, they can have one; we'll ship their families out too.
 








Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
18,435
Valley of Hangleton
Seems to me that the horse has already bolted and whatever posters views it is too late given reports that over 400 have already returned to the UK, or does everyone who voted no, want these people rounded up and expelled, but where to?

To graves where they will be covered in pig skins!!!!
 


blue'n'white

Well-known member
Oct 5, 2005
3,082
2nd runway at Gatwick
How can any sensible person vote "Yes"
These people have vowed to destroy our way of life just because it doesn't correspond with their warped views. I've little objection to anybody having a different point of view from mine but I draw the line someway short of killing someone for it.
Whatever happened to "live and let live" ?
 


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