JonnyComeEarly
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Hope im wrong but fear monday will be a tense and nervy performance from the stands.
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Will T-Bloom now make changes to the Amex for next season?
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Well, I'm working class, and so's my wife.
Guy Fawkes
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- Sep 29, 2007
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Boro's build up included a lot of pre-match music to hype the atmosphere, (I think Strings for Yasmin by Tin Tin Out was played a couple of times (used to be used by Sky for the football) + a lot of other similar era music too) - They used music to get the crowd going so why would you want to get rid of the music?
The biggest thing we have against creating an atmosphere is the high number of ST holders since the start of the Amex, it means that fans who want to sing can't move to the same area because of this.
Besides, with the existing atmosphere we have at our games, we still managed to equal Boro's points total and only lost out by a couple of goals over the course of the season. are you really trying to say the difference was the home atmosphere?
Home records of both teams:
Middlesbrough = W 16, D 5, L 2, GD +26
Brighton = W 15, D 5, L 3, GD +22
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Completely agree. Considering what was at stake against Derby, and how the match was going, it was so disappointing to see the lack of passion both vocally & physically in WSU. There are a few groups & individuals who try to get the songs going, stand at appropriate times (to applaud great play or berate the opposition or ref).......but.....
We are definitely in the minority. Sometimes I wonder whether it's too much bother to stand up to celebrate our goals! The number of times I've stood up to sing or roar our team on when it's obvious they're under the cosh but I look round to see all these faces staring as if I've stood up & burst into song in the middle of a restaurant!
Christ! Do they ACTUALLY want their team to win? Do they realise how rare these opportunities to get automatic promotion to the top division actually are? Don't they know how much their support can influence the game if they actually bothered to get passionate about it?
The club can't force people to sing, shout, boo, cheer, berate. But they can help those who want to do so without suffering the chagrin of those who are obviously above such public displays of passion for their club & football!
Make the Amex a hostile place for away teams to play. Move the away fans away from the goal. Have a meeting with those who DO want to make an atmosphere. Discuss location, drums, flags, air horns etc etc & help them to establish something worthwhile. Stop the pre-match music & get into the habit of getting to their seats earlier to get the songs going.
Seeing how my lad & his mates have got the bug (home & away), I am optimistic that we will eventually see new generations who could shift the balance to a more passionate crowd BUT this will ONLY happen if the club creates the right conditions for it & stops the "Sit On Your Hands" brigade from persisting the atmosphere of disapproval that currently dominates the Amex.
An Under 21 section, with attractive pricing, is a great idea to help them develop their own Albion fan identity...perhaps as Ultras.
Guy Fawkes
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- Sep 29, 2007
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What's stopping people? - nothing, so what if people are looking towards you if your singing, why does this put you or anyone else off, why care what they think? Just sing if you want to and don't look for excuses, but equally don't expect everyone to join in because it's not in some peoples nature (too self conscious)
Or maybe they are looking at you because they are desperately trying to figure out what is being sung (far too quickly) so they can join in?
Guy Fawkes
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- Sep 29, 2007
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Why are the songs sung so quickly, it's always rushed and difficult to keep up with and the next song is sometimes started before you realise what the first one was so it's unsurprising if no one has joined in
We need to sing much slower and far more clearly imo so that others (opposition, etc) can figure out what is being sung
Good old Sussex by the sea or Goo-ol-Ssex-b-t-c, then they've usually reached the 3rd line by the time some are only finishing the 1st line, is it any wonder people don't join in?
We need to sing much slower and far more clearly imo so that others (opposition, etc) can figure out what is being sung
Good old Sussex by the sea or Goo-ol-Ssex-b-t-c, then they've usually reached the 3rd line by the time some are only finishing the 1st line, is it any wonder people don't join in?
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Trust me, as an old Goldstone North Stander, I'm not self conscious. I don't give a monkeys.
But my lad & his mates feel intimidated by all of these adults who look disapprovingly when they want to replicate their Away Day antics. My worry is that they will be cowed by the literally silent majority. I'm hoping they will carry through their plan to move to the North Stand with mates from the Family Stand when they're 16. They see that as the solution to feeling free to properly get behind our team. An U21 section would be fantastic as I doubt they'll all get seats together in the North.
I also bloody hate songs being sung at 100mph & wish people could slow it all down.
JonnyComeEarly
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Wonder if [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION] will hear anything from PB and or TB with regards to potential plans to boost the noise at the amex next year? Few great suggestions above
durrington gull
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This.
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i reckon under 45' s would do.....definitely a couple of large designated vocal areas.......bigger the better .....get the pensioners and families up into the upper tiers .......on my limited visits to the Amex i have always been given disapproving looks whilst being " raucous" in the south stand.....also a big help would be if everyone could sing together rather than look at it as some sort of contest....5k singing together sounds much better than 3 groups of 1500 singing ad hoc.
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Get yer tin hat on. You heretic.
Don't think it is. The North Stand holds more too.
So much to say on this subject, but will just say this:
I long for the day when the away section is next to the North Stand. The atmosphere would be atleast 5 times better. I've sat in the South Stand a few times this season, just so I can be close to the away fans again, it's something me and my mates really miss in the North Stand. I try to get songs going, but just get funny looks from the people around us, so there's never going to be a singing section there.
Imagine a full North Stand shouting down the Palace fans just away to our left in the East Stand. It would be unreal. We wouldn't get any of the "plastic support" and "soulless bowl" comments from away fans anymore.
Thing is, it probably won't happen, and there's a few reasons why, but the main reason is probably to do with money. Now the stadium has been around for a few years, away attendences are dropping off. So, for the club to make sure they don't go down even more, they have to offer the cheapest seats available to aways fans, but as we all know the East Stand is quite expensive for the current league we are in. So, it wouldn't be worth their while in money terms unless we were promoted.
It isn't just about the away fans either. All the season tickets in the East Stand, that would have to be moved, will be worth a lot more to the club then having them all in the South Stand instead. Especially the 1901 bit.
When it comes to the club, money is more important than atmosphere. Which is fair enough when we losing the amount we are every year. Paul Barber looks at the figures, not the noise levels. But if you want more atmosphere, then you'll have to move the away fans next to the North, and take a hit money wise too, probably.
I long for the day when the away section is next to the North Stand. The atmosphere would be atleast 5 times better. I've sat in the South Stand a few times this season, just so I can be close to the away fans again, it's something me and my mates really miss in the North Stand. I try to get songs going, but just get funny looks from the people around us, so there's never going to be a singing section there.
Imagine a full North Stand shouting down the Palace fans just away to our left in the East Stand. It would be unreal. We wouldn't get any of the "plastic support" and "soulless bowl" comments from away fans anymore.
Thing is, it probably won't happen, and there's a few reasons why, but the main reason is probably to do with money. Now the stadium has been around for a few years, away attendences are dropping off. So, for the club to make sure they don't go down even more, they have to offer the cheapest seats available to aways fans, but as we all know the East Stand is quite expensive for the current league we are in. So, it wouldn't be worth their while in money terms unless we were promoted.
It isn't just about the away fans either. All the season tickets in the East Stand, that would have to be moved, will be worth a lot more to the club then having them all in the South Stand instead. Especially the 1901 bit.
When it comes to the club, money is more important than atmosphere. Which is fair enough when we losing the amount we are every year. Paul Barber looks at the figures, not the noise levels. But if you want more atmosphere, then you'll have to move the away fans next to the North, and take a hit money wise too, probably.
Nixonator
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Who are all these people 'giving you funny looks'. Tell them to **** off.
Do you honestly think the reason the atmosphere was so good was because the music was used to hype it up pre-match? The atmosphere was good despite the music! The music was drowning it out! Get rid.
We are what we are, and always have been.
As a group of home fans we are reactive and not proactive.
When we're loud we're very loud, but if the action or traveling fans are quiet, we are and always have been quieter.
No amount of seat changing, song speed or standing up will ever change that.
How anyone can think things can be changed when a sizable amount of the crowd don't know, or refuse to sing, the correct words to the club anthem, even when they are written on 2 giant screens, should tell you all you need to know.
If you don't think the atmosphere is good enough, do something about it, instead of grizzling on here.
As a group of home fans we are reactive and not proactive.
When we're loud we're very loud, but if the action or traveling fans are quiet, we are and always have been quieter.
No amount of seat changing, song speed or standing up will ever change that.
How anyone can think things can be changed when a sizable amount of the crowd don't know, or refuse to sing, the correct words to the club anthem, even when they are written on 2 giant screens, should tell you all you need to know.
If you don't think the atmosphere is good enough, do something about it, instead of grizzling on here.
Fair enough.
what?