If you look at the war torn countries in the East, Somalia, Yemen, Chad, they have over 90% Muslim population. Peace needed in their own countries.
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Breaking news: Reports of explosion in Manchester
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If you look at the war torn countries in the East, Somalia, Yemen, Chad, they have over 90% Muslim population. Peace needed in their own countries.
ManOfSussex
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I was just thinking that. The days of me walking into The North Stand unchecked for a pint after a game to let the crowd go down at Falmer station are surely over.
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pornomagboy
wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
http://news.sky.com/story/manchester-bombing-woman-looked-very-suspicious-before-attack-10889847
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East Preston Gull
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Like him or not it summed them up perfectly. Losers and cowards.
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Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
So sad a homeless man held woman in his arms as she died following Manchester terror attack.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...er-news/homeless-man-held-woman-arms-13077213
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...er-news/homeless-man-held-woman-arms-13077213
brakespear
Doctor Worm
I heard that too, it's absolutely awful, cannot even imagine what the parents of the missing are going through and also the children who are unable to get into contact with their parents.
Bold Seagull
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While the fact remains you will be more likely to be killed crossing the road walking back to your home.
There has to be a sense of perspective. Every time you walk out of the door, there are statistical chances of being killed in some way, horrendous as that sounds. Going into the North Stand for a pint after the game is going to be a lot lower risk than everything else you have done that day.
GT49er
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And therein lies the problem. They may condemn the terrorists methods, but at the end of the day they share their ultimate aims - UK law being replaced by Sharia Law (and all that that entails - apostasy becoming a crime......and homosexuality, of course. And certainly not allowing teenage girls to attend decadent pop concerts like the one bombed last night) and ultimately Britain (or whatever western country the scumbag murdering terrorists are attacking art the time) to become a Muslim country.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Very true and I know that. There is surely going to be security changes for events at high profile venues and the ability to just walk into one afterwards unchecked - and you don't get much more high profile globally than a Premier League stadium.
brakespear
Doctor Worm
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Prisons are Jihadi holiday camps.
I'm off to the cricket at Headingly tomorrow and also a bit nervous.
Psychobilly freakout
HellBilly
23 year old man arrested
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...arena-ariana-grande-concert-explosion-england
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...arena-ariana-grande-concert-explosion-england
TomandJerry
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An 8 year old confirmed dead.
“A beautiful little girl” has been named a victim of the suspected suicide attack after the Ariana Grande concert in Manchester that has left at least 22 dead and 59 people injured.
Eight-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, was at the concert with her mother Lisa Roussos and Saffie’s sister, Ashlee Bromwich who were later found injured in separate hospitals.
“A beautiful little girl” has been named a victim of the suspected suicide attack after the Ariana Grande concert in Manchester that has left at least 22 dead and 59 people injured.
Eight-year-old Saffie Rose Roussos, was at the concert with her mother Lisa Roussos and Saffie’s sister, Ashlee Bromwich who were later found injured in separate hospitals.
Paul Reids Sock
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Christ - that may be the one I was reading about earlier where the family were desperately trying to find her after she got separated.
I have a 7 1/2 year old - it doesn't bare thinking about
RIP.
TomandJerry
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Isis claim responsibility
More on Islamic State’s claim of responsibility for the attack. “A soldier of the Caliphate managed to place explosive devises in the midst of gatherings of the Crusaders in the British City of Manchester,” its news service said.
More on Islamic State’s claim of responsibility for the attack. “A soldier of the Caliphate managed to place explosive devises in the midst of gatherings of the Crusaders in the British City of Manchester,” its news service said.
Tyrone Biggums
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I have no doubt that few of the Muslims that live in the UK are willing let alone capable of perpetrating such heinous crimes however there is the inescapable fact that Islam, like many forms of Christianity in times past, creates a difference between the believer and non-believer. Tolerance is essentially conditional and when push comes to shove does not permit a sitting on the fence about who's side you are really on. The fact that the vast majority of the victims of Muslim violence are other Muslims highlights the pernicious nature of the rhetoric and propaganda that can be drawn from religious interpretation.
However, the reason that very few so called Christians use violence to achieve their aims is because the West is increasingly secular, has replaced superstition with empirical evidence, is progressively tolerant and has stopped punishing people for breaking the moral codes of the Bible. Even highly sectarian conflicts like the Troubles have been largely consigned to history simply because people recognised you cannot go on forever with tit for tat violence.
I respect everyone's right to believe what they want to believe however it really is time for the so called moderate Muslim majority in this country to stand up and not only make their disgust at actions like this crystal clear but then work tirelessly to reform the aspects of their religion that allow people to develop such twisted views and consign the intolerance to the past.
Of course the West has it's part to play and there are the arguments around how the West has, and continues to behave in the affairs of other countries and cultures but the real change can only come from within.
It's not enough to keep claiming Islam is a religion of peace. Make it so.
However, the reason that very few so called Christians use violence to achieve their aims is because the West is increasingly secular, has replaced superstition with empirical evidence, is progressively tolerant and has stopped punishing people for breaking the moral codes of the Bible. Even highly sectarian conflicts like the Troubles have been largely consigned to history simply because people recognised you cannot go on forever with tit for tat violence.
I respect everyone's right to believe what they want to believe however it really is time for the so called moderate Muslim majority in this country to stand up and not only make their disgust at actions like this crystal clear but then work tirelessly to reform the aspects of their religion that allow people to develop such twisted views and consign the intolerance to the past.
Of course the West has it's part to play and there are the arguments around how the West has, and continues to behave in the affairs of other countries and cultures but the real change can only come from within.
It's not enough to keep claiming Islam is a religion of peace. Make it so.
TomandJerry
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12 children among the wounded
Twelve children under the age of 16 were among the 59 casualties taken to hospital after the attack, according to David Ratcliffe, medical director of North West Ambulance Service.
Twelve children under the age of 16 were among the 59 casualties taken to hospital after the attack, according to David Ratcliffe, medical director of North West Ambulance Service.