[Politics] Brexit

dingodan said:

I think your suggestion that they are like the National Front is stupid. But that is the argument that will be made, and because it is stupid it will be ignored. & any legitimate concerns about UKIP will fall by the wayside because you made such stupid claims the basis of your argument.

Would leave voters vote for UKIP? I don't know. But angry people who feel betrayed will do funny things.

Nobody expected Brexit. Nobody expected Trump.

Reverse Brexit and this is the risk you are taking, and you will be responsible for what happens next.

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Thunder Bolt said:

Britain has 73 MEPs out of 750, so with 28 different countries contributing, we have a tenth of the vote.

We also have power of veto, which is why we aren't in the euro, because we chose not to join.

Why do you think others tell us what to do? Have you considered that a lot of the legislation is cooperation?

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dingodan said:

The government has a duty to ignore the people.

Democracy should not be upheld.

At least we know where you stand, I admire your honesty, there aren't many people who would admit to thinking like that.

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cunning fergus said:

I see.

It’s not an orthodox Parliament though, it’s a second chamber to approve laws made by an unelected executive. It’s like us voting in the Houses of Lords, while the people making the law in the commons and running Govt are unelected by the electorate.

It’s not a fluke this situation either is it?

Very clever, but No, No, No.

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ManOfSussex said:

I'm not the one being stupid here because it's not just me suggesting they're like the National Front - it's the former members/former councillors/MEPs etc who've left in their droves since Gerard Batten started courting Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, James Goddard et al and turning them into an Islamphobic, latter day version of the National Front.

Cary on though and if you want to vote for them, that's up to you.

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dingodan said:

I'd rather we honor the vote and leave now. But if we don't then that might be what happens, and it will be the fault of those people who considered their own views to be more important than our democracy.

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A1X said:

I would agree with you if it were not for the fact that Remain now leads in the polls, and not narrowly either. The public no longer want to leave, so it will hardly rise up in anger at not getting what it wants.

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The Clamp said:

No political structure should be upheld if it leads to the suffering of citizens. Be that Facism, communism or democracy. It is not in our best interests and government has a duty to scrap Brexit.

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dingodan said:

"rules based international order" - is a political term.

Don't confuse the political with the legal.

If a repeal of the ECA is promised by a prospective government, and the poeple vote for it, I don't really see what the EU will be able to do about it.

It would be potentially messy though. Generally having a UKIP government would be unknown territory.

I'd rather we honor the vote and leave now. But if we don't then that might be what happens, and it will be the fault of those people who considered their own views to be more important than our democracy.

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JC Footy Genius said:

Can you point me to the post where you called for the scrapping of the EU after the imposed austerity and suffering in Greece?

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Baldseagull said:

The EU Parliament can throw out a Commission if it feels the Commission is not functioning correctly.

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drew said:

Don't you live in Australia?

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A1X said:

I would agree with you if it were not for the fact that Remain now leads in the polls, and not narrowly either. The public no longer want to leave, so it will hardly rise up in anger at not getting what it wants.

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The Clamp said:

The government has not ignored the vote or the people. They have spent 2.5 years giving it full attention.
Brexit can’t work.
Let’s also not conveniently overlook the fact that the Leave campaign was steeped in undemocratic procedure, intent and influence. Possibly even criminally so.

I do not recognise the Brexit referendum as remotely democratic.

No. It’s time to abide by the fact that the referendum was advisory. It’s inadvisable and should be scrapped.


I’d say you’ll thank us for it in the end but your mob lack foresight. Hence the current funkle we are in.

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ManOfSussex said:

I'm not the one being stupid here because it's not just me suggesting they're like the National Front - it's the former members/former councillors/MEPs etc who've left in their droves since Gerard Batten started courting Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, James Goddard et al and turning them into an Islamphobic, latter day version of the National Front.

Cary on though and if you want to vote for them, that's up to you.

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A1X said:

I would agree with you if it were not for the fact that Remain now leads in the polls, and not narrowly either. The public no longer want to leave, so it will hardly rise up in anger at not getting what it wants.

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dingodan said:

No.

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dingodan said:

By what mechanism?

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JC Footy Genius said:

Can you point me to the post where you called for the scrapping of the EU after the imposed austerity and suffering in Greece?

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