Hillsborough verdict: Fans unlawfully killed

Thunder Bolt · Apr 26, 2016

BensGrandad said:
As it has been decided unlawful killing, by whom? Who will be held responsible and answerable?

From the BBC website

Police failures led to the deaths in the 1989 Hillsborough disaster.

Jurors answered yes to the question about whether any police error caused or contributed to a dangerous situation at the 1989 FA Cup semi-final.

The behaviour of Liverpool fans did not contribute to the dangerous situation at the turnstiles.

The CPS is considering legal charges now. Sheffield Wednesday club also failed with safety certificate, and agreeing numbers for the pens.

Hillian1 · Apr 26, 2016

I spent years wrongly blaming Liverpool fans for the disaster because I'd witnessed first hand some of their antics.

How wrong I was.

ROSM · Apr 26, 2016

There is a coroner in Sheffield that was also part of the cover up. Stefan Popper was his name and he was the one who laid down that all had died by 3.06pm that day

Thunder Bolt · Apr 26, 2016

Hillian1 said:
I spent years wrongly blaming Liverpool fans for the disaster because I'd witnessed first hand some of their antics.

How wrong I was.

You've had the guts to admit you were wrong. Well done. Some were still blaming the fans this year, on Nsc.

If anyone wants the link to the BBC website with a lot more detail to the questions and answers -
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-merseyside-36102998

Carrot Cruncher · Apr 26, 2016

Has that piece of gutter scum, Kelvin McKenzie been pressed for comment?

Hamilton · Apr 26, 2016

So pleased for the families that the truth has now officially been laid bare. Unfortunately, this isn't the end for them. This is just another milestone. Justice has not been done, and may never be done given the time that has passed, but at least the truth is there for all to see.

BBassic · Apr 26, 2016

I'm not up on law but doesn't this open up The Sun to a pretty hefty libel case?

Westdene Seagull · Apr 26, 2016

Igzilla said:
But presumably no action against the Government ministers of the day who aided and abetted the smear campaign against the fans.

And probably nothing against The Sun either.

Gwylan · Apr 26, 2016

BBassic said:
I'm not up on law but doesn't this open up The Sun to a pretty hefty libel case?

Only if individuals were named in the article. I don't read the Sun but from what I can gather it was about Liverpool fans in general. If it had said something like "Shocked police saw Joey Fazakerley, 27, of Anfield Road, take the wallet from the pocket of an unconscious fan" then, yes, Mr Fazakerley would have a case but I don't think they did

BBassic · Apr 26, 2016

Gwylan said:
Only if individuals were named in the article. I don't read the Sun but from what I can gather it was about Liverpool fans in general. If it had said something like "Shocked police saw Joey Fazakerley, 27, of Anfield Road, take the wallet from the pocket of an unconscious fan" then, yes, Mr Fazakerley would have a case but I don't think they did

Ah ok, thanks for that.

Frampler · Apr 26, 2016

BBassic said:
I'm not up on law but doesn't this open up The Sun to a pretty hefty libel case?

Nope. Time limit for libel is 12 months from the date of publication.

El Presidente · Apr 26, 2016

Headline story in The Sun is

Mum facing jail after taking daughter on family break in term time because her other children have different school holidays

Hillsboro verdict relegated behind that.

glasfryn · Apr 26, 2016

El Presidente said:
Headline story in The Sun is

Hillsboro verdict relegated behind that.

putting quite simply the sun is a shite paper and not even worthy of wiping your a rse on

The Albion Roar · Apr 26, 2016

ROSM said:
There is a coroner in Sheffield that was also part of the cover up. Stefan Popper was his name and he was the one who laid down that all had died by 3.06pm that day

The jury have to name and list the causes and times of death for all 96 individually.

Many - if not most - times of death are coming in after Stefan Popper's fabricated 3.15 cut-off point.

Thunder Bolt · Apr 26, 2016

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The Albion Roar · Apr 26, 2016

Carrot Cruncher said:
Has that piece of gutter scum, Kelvin McKenzie been pressed for comment?

And maybe SIr Bernard Ingham...

Igzilla · Apr 26, 2016

The Albion Roar said:
And maybe SIr Bernard Ingham...

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Utter scum. He should have his knighthood revoked.

Napier's Knee · Apr 26, 2016

The Albion Roar said:
And maybe SIr Bernard Ingham...

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Bloody hell. Is there any record of the names of the journalists who lied? If there is and if it were published, it would be a pity of their Twitter accounts were bombed.

Thunder Bolt · Apr 26, 2016

The Albion Roar said:
And maybe SIr Bernard Ingham...

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He believed the lies himself.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2012/apr/12/tanked-up-mob-hillsborough-police-thatcher

Eeyore · Apr 26, 2016

HOFNSKIN said:
The SUN and Thatchers paw marks were all over the smear campaign to blame the fans originally.

Thatcher genuinely believed it was the supporters who caused it. Mainly because of what the Police had told her. I think that oaf, Bernard Ingham, may have been her Press Secretary at the time.

As for The Sun, why that bog roll is still in circulation defies rational understanding.

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