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General Election 2017
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pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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It's some sort of success isn't it?
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
Why mention the comparison with Kinnock then? He lost too, but you pointed out the number of seats in comparison as if you can compare coming second, I merely pointed out the vote share.
I'm not talking about the winning but the abstentionism. If they rocked up in Westminster perhaps we'd finally get a picture of Corbyn and McDonnell with those Irish chaps*.
(* - what's that - they have actually met before?)
Chicken or lamb?
Colossal Squid
Returning video tapes
Oh come on Bozza, surely you have to concede that to have gained over 30 seats and eroded scores of Tory majorities in previously "safe" constituencies across the country will definitely be considered a success for Corbyn's campaign. To have gotten an overall majority would have taken a national swing of unprecedented proportions.
What's impressive here is just how much damage was inflicted upon the Tories in their heartlands, when the battle was supposed to be all about the reverse being the case.
Some of the Labour numbers are staggering. Looking around the home counties where Tory majorities have long been a foregone conclusion you've got places like Reigate, Surrey East and Maidstone with the Labour share being higher than its been in decades. In some cases having seen a swing of over 10 points - IN THE HOME COUNTIES.
In fact the last time a Labour party candidate finished second in Surrey East (commonly regarded as among THE safest Tory seats in the entire country) was in the 1950s, when there were only two parties contesting the seat. That by itself shows a staggering growth in the party's popularity among people in constituencies where they were given zero hope whatsoever.
It's too early to read too much into it, but regardless of party loyalties what Labour have done this election is something quite staggering. You can't deny this was seismic
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
May would be have been going to see the Queen unless a deal had been made imho
pb21
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The outcry is an ironic outcry about the hypocritical u turn.
pocketseagull
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- Dec 29, 2014
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opposition to the DUP is based on their policies and agenda right now, whereas the Corbyn smears were about things that took place decades ago.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I've been searching for links between the DUP and any form of terrorism. There have been financial irregularities with expenses but no connection with paramilitary groups.
In fact, On 11 June 2008 the party supported the government's proposal to detain terror suspects for up to 42 days, leading to The Independent dubbing all of the party's nine MPs as part of "Brown's dirty dozen". The Times reported that the party had been given "sweeteners for Northern Ireland" and "a peerage for the Rev Ian Paisley", amongst other offers, to secure Gordon Brown's bill.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Wonder how much of that was down to JC....or really because people really don't think much of May and the alternatives were..........
Nothing apparently, they've done great, winning the majority of seats.
Medwayseagull
JCB
I believe that statement is more appropriate for the Lib Dems who, I believe, you said you were voting for.
Not like the wonderful Corbyn, he'd definitely go if he wasn't wanted.
SK1NT
Well-known member
I am sorry about that, but that has nothing to do with my comment at all.
If i have to explain this then you probably souldn't be commenting to my post
Yes, she was wrong. Turns out the Tories could lose more seats and Labour would still be nowhere near government.
Corbyn was wrong. He pledged to win the election.
You were wrong:
This feels like the 83 cup final (or any other draw in a cup game between teams in different leagues) We'll be having a replay fairly soon, and there's no way that the Tories will play quite so badly next time, and JC will have lost his surprise element as the underdog.
I very much suspect that we'll have another election before the end of the year, and the Tories will get back in with a majority. But the interim period will be interesting.
As for the DUP - they seem to be more right wing than the Tories. But I don't think they actually need them very often, as with 319 out of 643 taken up seats, it's pretty near a majority anyway.
I very much suspect that we'll have another election before the end of the year, and the Tories will get back in with a majority. But the interim period will be interesting.
As for the DUP - they seem to be more right wing than the Tories. But I don't think they actually need them very often, as with 319 out of 643 taken up seats, it's pretty near a majority anyway.
This is just people calling out the obvious hypocrisy. To suggest otherwise would make you look very, very stupid.
pb21
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- Apr 23, 2010
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Just about sums it up!