brightn'ove
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I actually agree, although I would combine RE and Philosophy. Removing religious education altogether will only increase ignorance.
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Time to abolish single faith schools
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I actually agree, although I would combine RE and Philosophy. Removing religious education altogether will only increase ignorance.
Bold Seagull
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There is no denying not every child can go to their first or even second or third choice school, but they should have equal opportunity for their chance.
The performance of faith schools is actually a bit of a myth that is clouded by looking at results only. Faith schools in general take less kids from disadvantaged backgrounds, ethnic minorities etc.. If you look at academic progress based upon the progress pupils make from their start point, then it shows that faith schools are not out performing other schools in the progress each pupil makes. In short their results across the board will always look better based upon their admissions, but that doesn't mean they are better teaching establishments or offer more academic success than other schools.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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There's certainly an argument for removing state funding from faith schools but as long as this exists and parents have a choice then I'll send my children where I like. The State provides funding for lots of things that few of us use and many of us disagree with and if it becomes a big enough issue then Parliament will no doubt address that but I don't see an issue with the current set up (as long as there is choice). If they change it then que sera. The debate was whether there should be faith schools per se though rather than how they were funded.
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Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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Then we're going round in circles here. If I've got it right, even if there are two schools very similar and one has no admissions policy and the other does because of a stated ethos, you want the right to send your child to the one with an admissions policy but demand the right not to have to meet their criteria. That doesn't seem to me to be anything else than a decision made because of bloody-mindedness rather than anything else.
You're making problems where there really are none.
JCL666
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- Sep 23, 2011
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Can't see why in the UK there is any point in "faith schools", they mostly came about when religious groups pioneered public education.
I don't think the state should provide funding to any schools that determine their own selection criteria, such as Newman in Brighton.
I don't think the state should provide funding to any schools that determine their own selection criteria, such as Newman in Brighton.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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yes, thats the inference. religion is essentially a set of philosophical points. its a failing of our education that we learn of half a dozen religions, leaders and practices, yet nothing about Plato, Confucius, Descartes, Smith, Marx, Russell or Sartre.
My kids secondary school has replaced RE with "Faith, Philosophy & Thinking", and they only have to do it for the first 2 years.
Greg Bobkin
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- May 22, 2012
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These (and probably others).
The Kid Frankie
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- Sep 5, 2012
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Religion has no place in our education system in my opinion.
Except of course in RE lessons, where they should get in a Rabbi, Clergyman, Imam etc to explain their beliefs and practices. I will then happily visit the class myself and explain why they are all talking a load of bollocks. For free.
Except of course in RE lessons, where they should get in a Rabbi, Clergyman, Imam etc to explain their beliefs and practices. I will then happily visit the class myself and explain why they are all talking a load of bollocks. For free.
Sounds good to me.
Did that CoE school only allow Christians in? My kids go to a CoE, but children of all faiths go, as well as atheists.
Sounds good. It also sounds like it's not a single faith school.
Pretty pink fairy
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- Jan 30, 2008
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The Large One
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Maybe. But all the while there are religious faiths, it's more prudent to be told about who believes what and why. It's better to have an appreciation of the next person's belief system (even if you do think it's bollocks) than to live in total ignorance of it. To be in ignorance of it only ever breeds hatred.
Put it this way, there are still some people out there who think Islam has no place in the UK. If that was the case, for the very same reason, nor does Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism and football.
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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Newman is a catholic school but not single faith. I think people need to understand that not all 'religious' schools are about drilling into the kids that one particular god is better than another and more importantly they are not pushing the kids to kill for their faith.
Agree 100%. Education and religion should be kept apart except for the teaching of basic information about ALL religions at all schools. Separate Catholic and Protestant schools were a cause of the problems in Northern Ireland.
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HellBilly
That could actually be more dangerous, have you meet some parents ?
Never mind the ones with political or religious bias,
Jebus....
At least the schools should adhere to rules about what they can teach
nicko31
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I'd have the C of E school shut down I went to, it was so bad
That's what he said. He said to have RE lessons, with preachers from each faith to explain their belief, and an atheist to explain the truth.
I don't get the joke?
I'd shut down the schools that half the NSC members went to.