Robbie Savage and other analysts

Icy Gull · Jun 17, 2016

I saw the thread title but cannot bring myself to read the thread as Savage is and always has been a ****, from his footballing days to his arrival as the shouty thick argumentative pundit on 606 to embarrassing himself on Strictly. Oh and he's Welsh too.

Apologies if these views have already been expressed by somebody else.

SK1NT · Jun 17, 2016

Austrian Gull said:
Sounds like BBC/ITV are using some interesting continental talent - Bilic (intelligent), Matthaüs (not very), Karembeu.

The German channels have been quite imaginative. So far, I've seen Phil Neville (likeable but too safe), Uwe Rösler (good), Marius Trésor (like your favourite uncle). The two main analysts are Oliver Kahn and Mehmet Scholl who are both outspoken and interesting.

Austrian TV sticks to the same old suspects but the commentator for the game against Hungary was totally partisan. Every refereeing decision was lambasted against and, afterwards, he claimed that Hungary winning was a sensation!

She goes to my gym along with the whole Chelsea ladies team... and i agree... poor choice for a pundit. Even the female host comes out with some odd questions. She was much better when she hosted the womans wold cup.

pasty · Jun 17, 2016

SAC said:
One of the joys of watching in the pub is not being able to hear the commentators.

Definitely.

Sadly yesterday I was WFH, so although I didn't do a lot of work, I couldn't really run the risk of going to the pub to watch it as I had to at least keep up a pretence of working :lolol:

HCxUK · Jun 17, 2016

Can't remember which game he did, probably Italy vs Belgium, but Vialli was great on the BBC.

LamieRobertson · Jun 17, 2016

The Albion Roar said:
There were two summarisers alongside Guy Mowbray - fair enough considering it's one broadcaster 'representing' two sides.

As for insights into the game, he doesn't add much. But at the end of the first half, and through most of the second, that one-eyedness kept repeating ad nauseum that England were the better side, and that Wales didn't offer much. Of course, it's an obvious statement, but one-eyed bias would have meant ludicrous comments not based on reality. Don't recall too much of that.

Apart from 'Why would Gareth Bale go down if he wasn't fouled?' That was truly dumb.

What was funny was that all four pundits at half-time - Shearer, Ferdinand, Saunders and Hartson - were pissed off with their team's performance.

That comment by Savage on Bale was laughable ..he was just outside the penalty area and takes free kicks would have been one reason!

The Albion Roar · Jun 17, 2016

LamieRobertson said:
That comment by Savage on Bale was laughable ..he was just outside the penalty area and takes free kicks would have been one reason!

Inigo Calderon might have a word or two to say about that as well. In fact, he already has...

brakespear · Jun 17, 2016

trueblue said:
David Pleat was an acquired taste, sure, but pundits like him are in a different class to the likes of Robbie Savage in terms of what they know about the game. The bloke's a walking football encyclopaedia. Just sounded a bit like one too sometimes, which was a shame.

I can't remember much about him on the TV but I quite like David Pleat on 5 Live, one of those who, as you say, know the game inside out. See also Jimmy Armfield.

Stumpy Tim · Jun 17, 2016

Personally I'm a big fan of Jenas. He's far better than the majority of analysts

simmo · Jun 17, 2016

crabface said:
Il see your Kevin Keegan and raise you Jason Roberts.

I'll see your Jason Roberts and raise you a Big (Fat) Ron Atkinson

Pavilionaire · Jun 17, 2016

I agree that Jenas has been very good. I used to like Lee Dixon but he's gone off. Bilic is brilliant, the two I can't stand are Townsend and Wrighty, especially Wrighty. It's just dumbing-down.

cirC · Jun 17, 2016

Think yourself lucky that Neil Kinnoch knows f**kall about football...err wait a minute..............................

Mellotron · Jun 17, 2016

Stumpy Tim said:
Personally I'm a big fan of Jenas. He's far better than the majority of analysts

I like that you can tell he has a genuine passion to learn more and become better too. He will be decent.

Napper · Jun 17, 2016

Iain Dowie is decent.

NooBHA · Jun 17, 2016

Prince Monolulu said:
I've enjoyed Bilić so far; obvious tactical nous, a good sense of humour and quite passionate.

I agree but i also liked Luca Vialli - He is like a little 5 year old kid watching his team when Italy play, quite innocent bias

NooBHA · Jun 17, 2016

Simster said:
But that goes for 75% of pundits in my view. Rio Ferdinand is refreshing in that regard. Alan Shearer and Lawro have historically given the impression they are there on a jolly in between these tiresome football matches between foreign teams.

"We don't know much about Albania"

Well why not Alan? It's your f**king job to find out, not to go playing golf in between matches.

Exactly

They shouldn't be doing the job if they don't put in the time to research these things beforehand

MattBackHome · Jun 17, 2016

Pulis should be barred from any and all co commentary gigs.

Buzzer · Jun 17, 2016

allystrat · Jun 17, 2016

Tony 'I'm not so sure' Pulis

edna krabappel · Jun 18, 2016

I'm going to give a little credit to Kevin Kilbane here.

One of the lesser lights, because he wasn't much of a big name as a player (evidenced by the lack of mentions on this thread). But I think he's measured in his responses, insightful, and eloquent when he speaks. I enjoy his co-commentary.

edna krabappel · Jun 18, 2016

One of the Dublin based Seagulls mentioned on Twitter earlier today that they have...drum roll...Keith Andrews and <boooooooooooooo> Joey Barton doing their TV summarising.

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