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[Sussex] Katie Hopkins in Lewes
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Spiros
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And you appear to be one of those who only grant that freedom to people you don't disagree with. Personally I have zero time for Hopkins and her vile spewings, but I have even less time for those that want to prevent her from airing her views. The way to deal with her kind is to show them up for what they are, not make them martyrs for free speech - all that does is give her the moral high ground
AmexRuislip
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Next bonfire effigy?
The only person messed up is you. Sorry fella. You might call it hate others don't. Yes you are denying freedom of speech. .
Hopkins speaks: small (if any coverage) of it in media. Perhaps a lack of attendance is picked up on and used to frame her as a bit if a tragic figure
Hopkins is prevented: definite coverage in media, Hopkins seen as relevant as she is causing a reaction.
If I didn't like Hopkins and wanted to see her fail I know which of the above I would prefer. I'm not suggesting it happened here but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the prevented from speaking stories aren't really that true (either the protesters are paid for or the person declines to talk and makes out they've been prevented).
Hopkins is prevented: definite coverage in media, Hopkins seen as relevant as she is causing a reaction.
If I didn't like Hopkins and wanted to see her fail I know which of the above I would prefer. I'm not suggesting it happened here but I wouldn't be surprised if some of the prevented from speaking stories aren't really that true (either the protesters are paid for or the person declines to talk and makes out they've been prevented).
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I'm not sure Al Murray would find comparing refugees to cockroaches particularly funny.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...rants-cockroaches-feral-humans_n_7877124.html
Bladders
Twats everywhere
....and you’re a major part of the problem with those views .
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Ninja Elephant
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Effigy?...
AmexRuislip
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Dick Swiveller
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I missed his Final Solution routine as well. Don't agree with banning her but to describe her as not hateful is way wide of the mark.
Nixonator
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When someone is banned from speaking it usually makes me curious enough to want to watch/listen to it, at which point I realise it generally wasn't that bad. Worrying times.
TWOCHOICEStom
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She's an attention-seeking, hateful ballsack. Now she's just got more attention. Well done eh.
mikeyjh
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So some of you don't think she indulges in hate speech:-
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/katie-hopkins-when-is-enough-enough-10186490.html
“Make no mistake, these migrants are like cockroaches. They might look a bit “Bob Geldof’s Ethiopia circa 1984”, but they are built to survive a nuclear bomb. They are survivors”
“What we need are gunships sending these boats back to their own country”"
“Some of our towns are festering sores, plagued by swarms of migrants and asylum seekers, shelling out benefits like Monopoly money”
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/katie-hopkins-when-is-enough-enough-10186490.html
“Make no mistake, these migrants are like cockroaches. They might look a bit “Bob Geldof’s Ethiopia circa 1984”, but they are built to survive a nuclear bomb. They are survivors”
“What we need are gunships sending these boats back to their own country”"
“Some of our towns are festering sores, plagued by swarms of migrants and asylum seekers, shelling out benefits like Monopoly money”
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
That's probably why she chose somewhere like Lewes. [MENTION=30242]spence[/MENTION] seems to think it was crusties who stopped her, but from photos I've seen, it looks a lot like students to me.
BBassic
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Godwin's Law in thirteen posts. Impressive.
I think she's a hateful woman but she, as well as everyone else, should be afforded the opportunity to speak her mind.
I'm one of those liberal lefty snowflake types but it does irk me when people on this side of the fence think it's better to shut people up instead of engaging them in debate.
I think she's a hateful woman but she, as well as everyone else, should be afforded the opportunity to speak her mind.
I'm one of those liberal lefty snowflake types but it does irk me when people on this side of the fence think it's better to shut people up instead of engaging them in debate.
Buzzer
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Spot on. Banning people from speaking is completely counter-productive. The proof of that is the BNP who always managed to play the little victim against the big liberal establishment until Nick Griffin appeared on Question Time and showed himself and his party up for what it truly is/was. That performance destroyed his credibility.
Evelyn Beatrice Hall had it spot on "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". This is one of the crucial tests of whether we do live in a free society.
mikeyjh
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In fairness, it's one of those rare examples where a comparison to Hitler is, to some extent, relevant.
I agree about people sharing their opinion, entirely, but this isn't about debate IMO, this is someone spouting hateful untruths. Hopkins obviously has very strong view on immigration for which she is handsomely rewarded by the Mail (© Stewart Lee) and she is, of course, perfectly entitled to share those views within the confines of decency and the law. Clearly she has not been convicted of hate speech so some would use that fact to defend her but I think she oversteps the mark.
For what it's worth, if we're going to vehemently defend one's freedom to speak, then surely we must also offer that same robust to defence of freedom to protest against said speaker.
Machiavelli
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Are you seriously trying to deny that she frequently makes fascistic statements, and compare her to Al Murray? Wow.