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[Politics] It is time to end free speech

free speech yes or no

  • Keep free speech

    Votes: 102 92.7%
  • End free speech for some

    Votes: 8 7.3%

  • Total voters
    110


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
I don't think it does speak volumes. I think it's one situation which is being used to prove a point which is hard to prove.

The (mainly white male) Police force, in this case do not have a pro-muslim agenda. By using that clip as proof that the Police have double standards isn't helpful to any discussion.
Mate , youre (sorry but this is the best way to describe it) talking absolute double speak bollox, the bloke was running about hitting people with a stick, tell me why he wasnt arrested ?
 


alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
Oh him. Brother's friend. Last saw him at the Man City game. You haven't bumped him off, have you?

I certainly wouldn't bother with a second account it's easy enough to bait the Far right with one account, duplicate accounts are for losers like @Bushy.
Oh him , like you'd forgotten :lolol:You call your posts baiting ? Only in your bedsit behind a screen mate :lolol:
 


Bladders

Twats everywhere
Jun 22, 2012
13,672
The Troubadour
I don't think it does speak volumes. I think it's one situation which is being used to prove a point which is hard to prove.

The (mainly white male) Police force, in this case do not have a pro-muslim agenda. By using that clip as proof that the Police have double standards isn't helpful to any discussion.


I'm sure the Police would have acted the same had it been TR assaulting a muslim man with a stick right in front of them. :rolleyes:

I agree though, the Police do not have a pro muslim agenda. They have sit on their hands and hope it goes away agenda.

Just ask the people, and particularly the young girls of Rotherham and Telford for a start.
 




knocky1

Well-known member
Jan 20, 2010
12,946
Oh him , like you'd forgotten :lolol:You call your posts baiting ? Only in your bedsit behind a screen mate :lolol:

So I have a second account where I say that I lived in California and beat up a club full of skinheads at Huntington Beach? As a champagne Socialist I can assure you my main home is not a bedsit.
 




wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patreon
Aug 10, 2007
13,584
Melbourne
I don't think it does speak volumes. I think it's one situation which is being used to prove a point which is hard to prove.

The (mainly white male) Police force, in this case do not have a pro-muslim agenda. By using that clip as proof that the Police have double standards isn't helpful to any discussion.

You seem to be making an assumption about white males, why is that?
 


wellquickwoody

Many More Voting Years
NSC Patreon
Aug 10, 2007
13,584
Melbourne
So I have a second account where I say that I lived in California and beat up a club full of skinheads at Huntington Beach? As a champagne Socialist I can assure you my main home is not a bedsit.

Aah, a city 'mews'?
 


TWOCHOICEStom

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2007
10,546
Brighton
Mate , youre (sorry but this is the best way to describe it) talking absolute double speak bollox, the bloke was running about hitting people with a stick, tell me why he wasnt arrested ?

I don't know. I would love for him to have been arrested, get that clear. Maybe the police are shit at their job?

If he faces no punishment, I'll be both angry at the Police and asking why they didn't do their job, but also angry at Tommy Robinson for using this one example as evidence for some sort of institutional bias.
 






Bob'n'weave

Well-known member
Nov 18, 2016
1,970
Nr Lewes
Pretty dumb thread. Like saying we should curb free will as people sometimes murder each other. There are laws that cover this sort of thing, hate speech etc, but the lines seemed to be like VAR, rather bendy.
 








Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
2,921
Uckfield
I think the more pertinent point to be made here is to educate everyone on what "free speech" actually means. Because it sure as hell doesn't mean you can say whatever you want. There are limits, and society needs to a) stop deluding itself that free speech doesn't have limits, and b) start enforcing those limits appropriately.

Our society needs to keep the "Paradox of Tolerance" in mind: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

(Note that the legal framework that enshrines "free speech" in the UK *is* already intolerant of intolerance. Unfortunately it's just not enforced strongly enough).
 


Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,632
Eastbourne
Well im pretty sure you were all over the Brexit thread ??
Yep, and I've no objection to the odd political thread, particularly one with such national importance.

However threads originating from unknown posters who ONLY post politically motivated stuff, that I object to.
 




Green Cross Code Man

Wunt be druv
Mar 30, 2006
19,632
Eastbourne
Do you have a suggestion? Disclaimer: probably an academic exercise - it’s not my site!
How about at least 10 posts on football, a couple on the toughest creatures and a comment on a picture along the lines of Y,Y,N,Y,N, before a political thread can be started?
 


Goldstone1976

We Got Calde in!!
Helpful Moderator
NSC Patreon
Apr 30, 2013
13,765
Herts
How about at least 10 posts on football, a couple on the toughest creatures and a comment on a picture along the lines of Y,Y,N,Y,N, before a political thread can be started?

Good idea; highly manual process though. You volunteering?

We do have an automatic system whereby the first n posts made by a new account have to be approved by a mod before going live. This system was introduced around the time of the Boro infestation about 2 years ago, so before the OP joined up - so I don't know whether the OP's post automatically went live or was approved by a mod (I suspect the former). AFAIK, there's no way of adding an algorithm to additionally look at the content of the first n posts - I highly doubt it...it would need to be a pretty sophisticated AI.
 




alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
I don't know. I would love for him to have been arrested, get that clear. Maybe the police are shit at their job?

If he faces no punishment, I'll be both angry at the Police and asking why they didn't do their job, but also angry at Tommy Robinson for using this one example as evidence for some sort of institutional bias.

one example ? one example ? ye gods have you been on mars for the last few years and missed the part where grooming gangs were routinely ignored by both the police and local authorities for fear of accusations of racism ? it beggars belief :facepalm:
 






alfredmizen

Banned
Mar 11, 2015
6,342
I must congratulate you, a 26'33" video but you are able to reply in 8'.

I just wish I could fast forward my life like that, the time between weekends would fly by.

i dont need to watch the video i was there
 



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