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kevo said:

So a player can theoretically score a goal, take his shirt off, jump into the crowd, leap around for 10 minutes while being mobbed by the fans who spill on to the pitch causing security issues and no action should be taken? Nonsense.

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Guy Fawkes said:

So a player can kick the star player of their opposition off the pitch and get the same punishment (yellow card or 2nd yellow = red) as someone being mobbed by the crowd when they are still standing on the grass surrounding the pitch seconds after scoring a late winner

Sounds fair?

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Sussex Nomad said:

Thanks, you've just shown you really don't understand the joy of a winning goal in the 97th minute, 3rd or 35th game. You should have played, you'd have had more idea.

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Westdene Seagull said:

I assume you rather enjoy a sterile match where fans just politely appauld a goal while the scorer just casually wanders back to his own half ? It's football for f**k sake - it's meant to be full of emotion - it's nice to see a player be so excited to pull a match back. And it doesn't matter if it's the 3rd or 33rd match - 3 points are still vital and worth the same. Really can't believe you're defending the bellend Dean !

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Acker79 said:

Ignoring the childish "you don't know football" "you never played" from people who have no idea who I am, what my playing experience is...

That's simply not true (the bolded bit in particular). Last season we won our fourth game of the season (including the cup game). We beat rotherham 3-0. Did it mean as much to the fans as the fourth game from the end of the season? No. Not even close. Because later in the season you have more of a sense of how close you are to success or failure. So there absolutely is context given when in the season a game is played.

If I were a man city fan I'd celebrate the goal and win, of course, but there would be a sense of 'finally! It shouldn't have taken that long' (much like I felt when we finally broke down league two Barnet on Tuesday) and I wouldn't be running on the pitch for any win that early in the season. Not because I don't understand or enjoy football, or because of how many away games I have or have not been to, but because there is context. It's why you're both over on the Maty Ryan thread defending him against people who are writing him off so early against people who are equally reacting emotionally to what they see on the pitch.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, just giving my view of it.

As for defending Dean... Chris Kamara loves to criticise referees. Absolutely loves it. He'll change his position on things just to do it (I can vividly remember him slating a couple of referees for giving penalties for handballs one weekend because "it HAS to be deliberate, if it's not deliberate you cannot give it", the following week he criticised a ref for allowing a goal to stand when it went in off a players arm starting "now, I know it's not deliberate, but..."). Even he says The Complete And Utter Shyster was right to book Sterling. I'll criticise a referee if I think he got something wrong. I don't think he got the Sterling booking wrong. Ake on the other hand... got that one completely wrong.

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kevo said:

No. If you are referring to yesterday's challenge it was a straight red - and hopefully an extended ban beyond the normal 3-match ban. Two yellows is only a one-match ban.

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Acker79 said:

Ignoring the childish "you don't know football" "you never played" from people who have no idea who I am, what my playing experience is...

That's simply not true (the bolded bit in particular). Last season we won our fourth game of the season (including the cup game). We beat rotherham 3-0. Did it mean as much to the fans as the fourth game from the end of the season? No. Not even close. Because later in the season you have more of a sense of how close you are to success or failure. So there absolutely is context given when in the season a game is played.

If I were a man city fan I'd celebrate the goal and win, of course, but there would be a sense of 'finally! It shouldn't have taken that long' (much like I felt when we finally broke down league two Barnet on Tuesday) and I wouldn't be running on the pitch for any win that early in the season. Not because I don't understand or enjoy football, or because of how many away games I have or have not been to, but because there is context. It's why you're both over on the Maty Ryan thread defending him against people who are writing him off so early against people who are equally reacting emotionally to what they see on the pitch.

I'm not trying to change anyone's mind, just giving my view of it.

As for defending Dean... Chris Kamara loves to criticise referees. Absolutely loves it. He'll change his position on things just to do it (I can vividly remember him slating a couple of referees for giving penalties for handballs one weekend because "it HAS to be deliberate, if it's not deliberate you cannot give it", the following week he criticised a ref for allowing a goal to stand when it went in off a players arm starting "now, I know it's not deliberate, but..."). Even he says The Complete And Utter Shyster was right to book Sterling. I'll criticise a referee if I think he got something wrong. I don't think he got the Sterling booking wrong. Ake on the other hand... got that one completely wrong.

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drew said:

Did Sterling actually dive into the crowd or did he just go over the touchline but the crowd that had encroached surrounded him? Not sure he actually went over any barriers into the seating area.

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