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[Football] VAR fiasco at Huddersfield



Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
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Oxton, Birkenhead
Very odd decision denied Man Utd a second goal.
Firstly, it wasn’t a clear and obvious mistake to allow the goal.
Secondly,it appears the VAR ref used wonky lines overlaying the play on the screen (later denied)
Thirdly, it wasn’t offside.
I don’t think that this technology suits football. Let the officials make the decisions.
 


timbha

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Jul 5, 2003
9,834
Sussex
The technology is probably ok, it’s just the interpretation and the ridicule it invites, eg the official being 300 miles away. It works brilliantly for rugby so why not football?
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,162
Shoreham Beaaaach
I've spent 20+ years seeing dodgy decisions go Manures way. Do care about this one? No.
 






Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
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Withdean area
Very odd decision denied Man Utd a second goal.
Firstly, it wasn’t a clear and obvious mistake to allow the goal.
Secondly,it appears the VAR ref used wonky lines overlaying the play on the screen (later denied)
Thirdly, it wasn’t offside.
I don’t think that this technology suits football. Let the officials make the decisions.

Glory, glory man united. YOUR reds go marching on and on.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
49,989
Goldstone
Very odd decision denied Man Utd a second goal.
Firstly, it wasn’t a clear and obvious mistake to allow the goal.
Secondly,it appears the VAR ref used wonky lines overlaying the play on the screen (later denied)
Thirdly, it wasn’t offside.
I don’t think that this technology suits football. Let the officials make the decisions.
Teething trouble doesn't make it a bad idea.
 






seagulls4ever

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Oct 2, 2003
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I don't see the problem. You could see Mata's knee was offside, even if it was only very slightly. But it doesn't matter - offside is offside - you could see he was slightly offside so it's clear and obvious. But all goals are reviewed for offside, irrespective of whether it is 'clear and obvious'. The lines not working correctly initially was a shambles, but they weren't used to make the decision (straight lines were), and the right decision was made. Not sure why you think it wasn't offside (or the BT commentators for that matter). With the straight lines that were eventually shown, you can clearly see it was.
 


lizard

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Jul 14, 2005
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A tool is only as good as the tools that are using it.









(Though final decision does appear to have been correct.)
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
49,989
Goldstone
I don't see the problem. You could see Mata's knee was offside, even if it was only very slightly. But it doesn't matter - offside is offside - you could see he was slightly offside so it's clear and obvious. But all goals are reviewed for offside, irrespective of whether it is 'clear and obvious'. The lines not working correctly initially was a shambles, but they weren't used to make the decision (straight lines were), and the right decision was made. Not sure why you think it wasn't offside (or the BT commentators for that matter). With the straight lines that were eventually shown, you can clearly see it was.
Well this is a different take on events.
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Smalling handball not given
Man U goal wrongly ruled out

Took 3/4 minutes to get it wrong

Add to the Liverpool V WBA joke its not working
 


cunning fergus

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Jan 18, 2009
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Teething trouble doesn't make it a bad idea.


I have to disagree, my own view is that VAR is the Trojan horse that will in time will essentially provide for mid game advertising.

I’m sure FIFA and the other football associations look enviously at how the US sports are able to maximise revenue due to the time outs etc. that proliferate their games.

VAR creates the same opportunity for football, and in time I expect it will be developed so that managers get 2 appeals or decisions have to be concluded in 2 mins........of course they won’t indicate that is the future plan now, we have to get used to it first.

All we have at the moment is the thin end of the wedge.
 






Deadly Danson

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Oct 22, 2003
3,937
Brighton
I don't see the problem. You could see Mata's knee was offside, even if it was only very slightly. But it doesn't matter - offside is offside - you could see he was slightly offside so it's clear and obvious. But all goals are reviewed for offside, irrespective of whether it is 'clear and obvious'. The lines not working correctly initially was a shambles, but they weren't used to make the decision (straight lines were), and the right decision was made. Not sure why you think it wasn't offside (or the BT commentators for that matter). With the straight lines that were eventually shown, you can clearly see it was.

Exactly this. I don't know what everyone's moaning about. It's offside, it took a minute or so. Correct decision. End of story.
 


maffew

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Dec 10, 2003
8,861
Worcester England
I have to disagree, my own view is that VAR is the Trojan horse that will in time will essentially provide for mid game advertising.

I’m sure FIFA and the other football associations look enviously at how the US sports are able to maximise revenue due to the time outs etc. that proliferate their games.

VAR creates the same opportunity for football, and in time I expect it will be developed so that managers get 2 appeals or decisions have to be concluded in 2 mins........of course they won’t indicate that is the future plan now, we have to get used to it first.

All we have at the moment is the thin end of the wedge.

Very much like tennis, it'll come good I think. Using it at the World Cup though, no way, yet
 


seagulls4ever

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Oct 2, 2003
4,338
Smalling handball not given
Man U goal wrongly ruled out

Took 3/4 minutes to get it wrong

Add to the Liverpool V WBA joke its not working

Everyone just loves an excuse to jump on the bandwagon.

Take a look. Clearly offside so correct call.

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I expect the actual evidence will be ignored as this is debated over the rest of the weekend, and only the wonky lines will be used by people to claim it was the wrong decision.
 




Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
49,989
Goldstone
I have to disagree, my own view is that VAR is the Trojan horse that will in time will essentially provide for mid game advertising.
I can certainly see the yanks doing it. In fact, I can't see them not doing it. 'This decision is being reviewed by Crunchy Crunch, the crunchiest crunch there is'.

I’m sure FIFA and the other football associations look enviously at how the US sports are able to maximise revenue due to the time outs etc. that proliferate their games.
Doesn't FIFA have enough money already?

VAR creates the same opportunity for football, and in time I expect it will be developed so that managers get 2 appeals or decisions have to be concluded in 2 mins........of course they won’t indicate that is the future plan now, we have to get used to it first.

All we have at the moment is the thin end of the wedge.
I wish you were wrong, but it's a pretty valid concern. We need to do our best to not accept it (any ads that creep in, rather than var).
 





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