Murray had the luxury of having a team built round him at Palace playing to his strengths. He had a winger either side and Palace practised and mastered set pieces that centred on him. He also had Haha diving for penalties for him to plunder. I can't remember us playing the style and formation of football to suit CMS (who was unlucky with injuries). All that said, you are still right.
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Murray had the luxury of having a team built round him at Palace playing to his strengths. He had a winger either side and Palace practised and mastered set pieces that centred on him. He also had Haha diving for penalties for him to plunder. I can't remember us playing the style and formation of football to suit CMS (who was unlucky with injuries). All that said, you are still right.
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You miss my point completely, I was not comparing CMS to Murray. I was talking about the season Palace got promoted and Murray WAS top scorer in the division. We had heard nothing about the two budgets until then when it became Gus' excuse for why we had to let Murray go. I was wondering if Bloom ever concurred that the club had two budgets hence being unable to keep Murray. I think this little nugget came out just before we played Palace at home in the league (St Patrick's day massacre) and around the same time that Poyet said he would not minding leaving Albion "right now"
Blues Rock DJ
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Get Kyle Lafferty in on a month's loan, until we get Murray ?
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or perhaps, unlike so many on this thread, they were big enough to just to move on........
skipper734
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According to Barry LLoyd, quoted in The Nowhere Men." Brighton have a very rich owner and Gus gets whatever he wants."
Around the time Oscar left and the Argus was printing (from what I remember) a quote-less 'interview' with him criticising the club's transfer approach (under a man who was fired 7months later after a second manager left and the transfer dealing were criticised) there were loads of contradictory things leaked/were rumoured - Oscar was never available, didn't take training etc.
As the end of gus's tenure played out, lots of things were leaked out/rumoured in what seemed like an attempt to turn the fans against him. Bloom himself revealed that tidbit about quitting.
I don't recall anyone ever denying the two pot claim, or blaming him for the Murray decision. You'd think, given that 'campaign' against Gus, if he was even only half to blame for the Murray decision they would have made an issue out of it,
cunningplan
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It is never a good idea to use half a quote.
You look foolish!
Eh, sometimes.
Aveacarlin'
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Of course. One is playing premiership football. The other in League 2.
darters74
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You're joking right?
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I'm better than CMS
supaseagull
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There are so many "experts" on this site. None of which have given a decent alternative to Murray....a proven goalscorer at every level he has competed at.
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Aveacarlin'
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He only played 2/3 of the gameExcept against opponents three divisions lower in the FA Cup yesterday.
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Speaking from memory, Garcia came with a list of players that he wanted that were either unattainable, or unaffordable so of course he is going to criticize the transfer policy. As for Poyet, my impression was that Murray was not a Poyet man and maybe the clash of personalities was why Poyet didn't want to keep him. I don't know but I'm sure they would have paid CMS more than what Murray was after. Even if it was slightly less, factor in the transfer fee then the deal is far more heavily weighted in favour of CMS. Maybe Poyet didn't think Murray would cut it in the championship even though he was prepared to gamble on CMS.
I still think Murray left because Poyet didn't like him. If Poyet had wanted him to stay then I'm sure with the relationship he had with Bloom at the time they would have paid him.
Another thing to consider was the club's policy at the time (don't know whether it was Poyet or the club) not to discuss contracts until we knew where we were playing the following season. Hardly helpful to players who have to think of security of income.
And finally, let's not forget how Poyet dealt with Vicente. First saying that it was up to Vicente whether to activate the years extension to his contract and then, when the time came to it, enforcing it, seemingly against the players will.
That was one of the claims, and that kinda supports my point. That was something that came out after the 'interview', showing the club aren't afraid to point the finger of blame when they feel managers speak out of turn.
Incidentally, though, the players on that list were declared as unattainable by the same guy that Warren Aspinall claimed wasn't interested in players he suggested as they weren't on his spreadsheet who was fired after a second manager walked (albeit in part because of his inability to turn things around on the pitch).
Was that Poyet or the Club?
This is a argument that also rears its head when people call for the manager to go "well, who else would you have?!". I have never understood why some people think you have to have an alternative in mind to express a negative opinion for the current choice. I don't think most fans have an encyclopaedic knowledge of every potential striker out there (or every potential manager).
I imagine there has to be at least a couple of players, from lower leagues, abroad, in reserve teams in our league and above, who would be affordable, willing to come here and who would, if given the chance, excel in our team. The problem is we don't know about them, or they're playing in a team/system that hides the strengths they have that would fit our team, wrong attitude in their current set up and in need of the chance elsewhere to come good, etc.
I don't suppose that's just with us. I imagine every team has overlooked, or yet to spot a particular player who would be just what they need to take their team to the next level.
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I only ever saw quotes from poyet so !
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Not all players care about winning.....Leon Best for one.
Zamora loves us it true.....honest.
Yeah, but we are their customers and the customer is always right
If Murray or whoever trys to shaft uncle Tony for a few quid extra then they go up the road to selhurst they can feck right off.
Not all players care about winning.....Leon Best for one.
Zamora loves us it true.....honest.
Yeah, but we are their customers and the customer is always right
If Murray or whoever trys to shaft uncle Tony for a few quid extra then they go up the road to selhurst they can feck right off.
I think Murray's £3.25 million replacement who is now plying his trade in League 2 is the one who shafted Uncle Tony for a few quid.