The rumour is the vote will be delayed, what for? It’s pointless delaying it. Nothings going to change.And I hope the EU play hard on their no further negotiation stance.
But Labour tell us there's a much better deal to be had. Where is it exactly?
The rumour is the vote will be delayed, what for? It’s pointless delaying it. Nothings going to change.And I hope the EU play hard on their no further negotiation stance.
have you? i mean with verifiable sources? because i have heard from people involved in trade that, while concerned, dont think its a massive issue and the ports will continue to function.
But Labour tell us there's a much better deal to be had. Where is it exactly?
i was hoping for some sensible input, not jibes. tariffs would default to the existing EU, paperwork defaults to the existing system for dealing with non-EU. time taken to process everything would increase. most of this is other forum talk, i dont know if they know or speculate like WatfordO. one person i know personally in the transport industry says lorries backed up everywhere wont happen, because goods simply wont go out if thats likely - no haulage firms is going to put blokes and lorries on the road knowing they'll be stuck in Kent/Calais for days.
Time for no deal. Just get on with it. No deal at least gives us certainty and will almost certainly mean the EU comes back with a better offer at some point in the future.
Time for no deal. Just get on with it. No deal at least gives us certainty and will almost certainly mean the EU comes back with a better offer at some point in the future.
Ahem, a dictator is someone who is in complete control of all the official arms of the State. Now let's look at Mrs May.....May was in contempt of court last week and today will pull the plug on the vote because she faces certain defeat. Right now she's looking like the shittest dictator since Mugabe.
GE called, Jezza gets the nod.
Decides no better deal can be had, so changes mind about 2nd vote.
We stay in Europe and have Jezza for the next few years as PM.
By Christ I'm excited by all this.
GE called, Jezza gets the nod.
Decides no better deal can be had, so changes mind about 2nd vote.
We stay in Europe and have Jezza for the next few years as PM.
By Christ I'm excited by all this.
We need a Poll on this time next year. In/Out, Red/Blue/Other, May/Jezza, Fooked/Partially Fooked
THISTime for no deal. Just get on with it. No deal at least gives us certainty and will almost certainly mean the EU comes back with a better offer at some point in the future.
TYPICAL GRIZZLER IN DENIAL , LEAVE MEANS LEAVEHe also said he wouldn't resign if Leave won, shouldn't take anything a politician says as gospel.
Our government is an utter disgrace. Having the cheek to argue the EU is taking away sovereignty, then trying to prevent Parliament from having a meaningful vote, then granting it through gritted teeth, knocking back a TV debate over it, then pulling the plug on the vote the day before. Just an utter, utter, UTTER farce.
Jezza wants out of Europe more than the Tories.
Hard to see any outcome other than a second referendum now? What deal can get past this parliament? Unless this was all a cunning plan to ensure the failure of Bexit I cannot see any way that May can survive this shambles and cluster**** of a negotiation . Regardless of your view on leaving in the first place, this government has to be one of the most incompetent in my lifetime which is saying something. We need not only a GE but a complete reevaluation of politics in this country. How can you vote based on your Brexit view regardless of what that is for either of the major parties? The Tories are a mess who cannot be trusted to govern let alone deliver Brexit and Labour cannot even produce the courage of their convictions to support a coherent position on the most important decision of this generation. A plague on both their houses.
Mission impossible for whoever emerges from this mess in charge. Withdraw A50 leaves you with a country that no longer believes in democracy and part of a Europe where we will inevitably be outsiders with less influence. Or leave with no deal that we have not prepared for with 100 days to find a workable customs solution with no technical solution available and all that comes with that.
We are well and truly ****ed....
why's it unlikely ?Unlikely, more likely we crumble as we become more of a mess and BEG for a deal and they may throw us something.