pb21
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[Politics] Brexit
- Thread starter KingstonSeagull
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You were accusing socialists of being Tories yesterday, now you’ve rolled out the Transit van tale. Bravo! Can you do the Tate and Lyle one next, not heard that for a while either. Oh, and maybe end your reply to this with some badly Google translated Deutsch insults?
PS maybe go balls deep and do your Alan Shearer impression and mention again you’re a roofer’s son from Moulscombe (can’t be arsed to look up the correct spelling).
cunning fergus
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- Jan 18, 2009
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Who sent the leaflet?
The pro remain Government......plus ca change.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-35980571
Only £9m
Da Man Clay
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Quite simply one has been agreed in law and the other hasn’t. There has been no discussion around the unilateral ability to delay brexit and it wasn’t mentioned in the legal ruling in relation to withdrawal. In any case it’s also in article 50 as below.
“The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.”
cunning fergus
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Every time someone is crying about the implications of Brexit on the motor industry I will bring up Ford, EU loans and Turkey.
Thousands of jobs lost by EU citizens.
It’s weird that despite the many times I have raised it you have never opined on the implications of the situation, merely that I raise it. It’s not fake news, it’s not hyperbole it happened, jobs are lost and have been lost while we were in the EU. In the case of Ford, there are questions to answer about how institutions like the EIB operates.
My view is that the EIB is generating profit for its loans, to the benefit of the EU and the member states Govts that underwrite the EIB at the expense of EU workers. Sounds kinda Tory doesn’t it?
Chin chin.
PS. yes, I am, and I was bought up to understand the difference between Tories and socialists.
pb21
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So not Parliament then.
Also just because Parliament voted for the European Union Referendum Act 2015 doesn't mean they waivered any future say in what happened.
You’ve moved onto badly translated Italian now. Priceless. It’s Cin Cin you fool.
pb21
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I wonder how many jobs the EIB has helped create for EU and UK citizens?
cunning fergus
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I see, so what you are saying is that the Government is not part of the Parliament?
So if Parliament vote for a referendum, let’s call that the people’s vote, then Parliament can choose whether or not to act on it?
They set the question.......as a reminder it was remain in the EU or LEAVE the EU.
Not partially leave, or partially remain.
cunning fergus
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Wonder away......how does the EIB raise its money, and more importantly who is on the hook in the event of a default?
pb21
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Just had a look and since 1973 the EIB has loaned the following amount to UK projects €118,313,107,517.05, a total of 1,420 projects.
I would guess that has created quite a few thousand jobs?
nicko31
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Parliament is taking back control because the government is playing Russian rolette with the countries future, complete indecision and head in the sand for over 12 months has brought us to this. Last year was supposed to be all about the future relationship on trade, still stuck at first base.
This week we've are seeing the emergence of some true patriots, unlike some don't just see a wild west unregulated Britain as an opportunity to line their own pockets
As an aside, when Fergus first raised his tedious Transit van tale it was picked apart and comprehensively dismantled. It’s all in this thread if you can be arsed to scroll back.
He’s got a handful of arguments and insults he endlessly repeats....most of us a just bored by them now.
portslade seagull
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Over the same period how much have we paid in to get back that amount can you look that up
nicko31
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A drop in ocean compared to £4000M spent and no deal Brexit planning, and £50,000M in lost growth to the economy since Brexit
#brexitnumbers
Real pity a £3k Brexit levy couldn't be slapped on every leave voter, would focus their minds a bit. Instead chuck it on the credit card, our kids pick up the tab!!
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pb21
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Paid in to what? The EIB is not financed directly by EU member states.
Sometimes HT it's better to stop digging when one makes a fool of oneself. So as well as confusing the words extend and withdraw, you have now never heard of the expression "Chin Chin" ...... oh dear
- https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/chin-chin
Half a trillion according to the Telegraph ...... great value for money ..... not.
Sometimes HT it's better to stop digging when one makes a fool of oneself. So as well as confusing the words extend and withdraw, you have now never heard of the expression "Chin Chin" ...... oh dear
No. I have never seen that spelling before. I have always assumed it was Italian, like when someone says ciao. I guess I’m far more European minded than most. Every day is a school day.