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studio150

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PC Keith Palmer. Husband and father.
Ex Royal Artillery, 15 years service in the Police and a member of the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command.
A public servant stepped into the affray unarmed to confront the perpetrator and to protect the innocent.
Paid the ultimate sacrifice.

Petty arguments aside on this NSC thread, im sure we can all agree there are those out there doing far more than some of us ourselves would be brave enough to do to protect us all. As ever I am in awe of the bravery of these quiet heroes that deserve but do not demand my thanks.

The Keith Palmers of this world deserve our greatest respect.

Absolutely this.

The bravery of Keith Palmer and others who serve to keep us safe and free should never be overlooked or belittled.

Given that most people's reaction in such circumstances would be to freeze or flee, the fact that the Police officers only thought was to move towards and confront the attacker I find remarkable and for this they deserve our greatest respect.
 




Live by the sea

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Not sure if it will ever be possible to totally stop all Islamist inspired terrorism. The numbers of people who potentially could be radicalised in the Muslim world are huge, literally millions. Very worrying. Although most Muslims probably don't support terrorism, even a tiny minority of say 2 % which is probably quite conservative equates to several million .
 


Thunder Bolt

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The police have confirmed, & the BBC revised, the number of dead to four, this morning.
The policeman, a woman in her 40s, a man in his 50s and the attacker.
 


Goldstone1976

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BBC reporting seven people arrested (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39363297)

Jolly quick work by the boys in blue.

"It is still our belief...that the attacker acted alone..." Head of counter terrorism, Met.

Seems as though the attacker's name is now known to both police and journalists, but the latter are being urged not to publish it yet - presumably because they want to question more people known to the attacker and don't want to tip them off in advance of turning up...
 




sir albion

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Not sure if it will ever be possible to totally stop all Islamist inspired terrorism. The numbers of people who potentially could be radicalised in the Muslim world are huge, literally millions. Very worrying. Although most Muslims probably don't support terrorism, even a tiny minority of say 2 % which is probably quite conservative equates to several million .
Totally agree....I'd suspect 1000's were celebrating under their breath and can only see things getting worse but expected going on what's been done to the middle east in recent decades.
 








pastafarian

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"It is still our belief...that the attacker acted alone..." Head of counter terrorism, Met.

Seems as though the attacker's name is now known to both police and journalists, but the latter are being urged not to publish it yet - presumably because they want to question more people known to the attacker and don't want to tip them off in advance of turning up...

This does seem logical,they know full well who he is but i know people are dying to find out who this muslim terrorist is but the boys in blue need to check out all angles and make sure before announcing his name
 


trueblue

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Not sure if it will ever be possible to totally stop all Islamist inspired terrorism. The numbers of people who potentially could be radicalised in the Muslim world are huge, literally millions. Very worrying. Although most Muslims probably don't support terrorism, even a tiny minority of say 2 % which is probably quite conservative equates to several million .

2% conservative? I'd think that's very high.
 


Herr Tubthumper

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This does seem logical,they know full well who he is but i know people are dying to find out who this muslim terrorist is but the boys in blue need to check out all angles and make sure before announcing his name

I read some time ago that one police tactic is to drip feed information and watch the activities and movements of people they are watching. Their reactions to public information can be revealing.
 




wellquickwoody

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How many actually dead in Westminster attack?

Late afternoon into the evening yesterday seemed to bring confirmation of 4 dead in the attack in London, then late last night it seemed to increase to 5. Early this morning the figure being spouted seemed to confirm 5, but on the 8am news on Radio 2 Moira Stewart said that there 3 confirmed dead? Also, on BBC Breakfast a spokes'lady' from the Quilliam Foundation twice said that the suspected attacker was still alive? Anyone know a reliable source.......
 


Stat Brother

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Why would YOU need YOUR OWN thread to discuss this?
 






wellquickwoody

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Why would YOU need YOUR OWN thread to discuss this?

I didn't NEED my OWN thread to discuss this, I just thought it was different question to what was being discussed on the main thread which I have not looked at in the last hour or so. I do SOOOO apologise if this has been mentioned on there and hope that I have not OFFENDED YOU oh great one.

Snotty knob.
 


pastafarian

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I read some time ago that one police tactic is to drip feed information and watch the activities and movements of people they are watching. Their reactions to public information can be revealing.

i should imagine thats also true
see how muslim terrorists react to their new found situation.....makes sense
 


DavidinSouthampton

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Totally agree....I'd suspect 1000's were celebrating under their breath and can only see things getting worse but expected going on what's been done to the middle east in recent decades.

On the one hand you seem to be saying there is some justification for what happened yesterday, with the "what's been done to the Middle east in recent decades" bit.

But on the other hand, if the "1000s celebrating under their breath" comment refers to people in this country, I think you have got it horribly wrong. All the Muslims I know will be devastated, in turmoil and deeply worried at the moment.
 


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I read some time ago that one police tactic is to drip feed information and watch the activities and movements of people they are watching. Their reactions to public information can be revealing.

Which makes perfect sense and would flush out any accomplices etc...

about 10 arrests last night is also interesting, as unfortunately these things tend to sometimes make other people involved panic and maybe commit an attack sooner rather than later if they think they maybe at risk of being picked up by the long arm of the law.

Not a time for rash comments or wild speculation.
 




Stat Brother

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Mo Gosfield

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Not hard when you already know who he is and who he associates with.
he and associates are clearly well known to the security services.

....and, quite clearly also well known to investigative journalists, who fed the information to the BBC, who initially named and pictured the assailant in action, on the six o'clock news but by ten o'clock they had been instructed by police and security services to say nothing.
I watched the early evening coverage, saw him pictured and then could easily recognise him, as he lay on the stretcher, post shooting.
 



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