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[Cricket] Second Ashes Test - England vs Australia - Lords
- Thread starter Hampster Gull
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vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Get Paul Mckenna in to tell Moeen Ali that he is, in fact, Hashim Amla and he always bats at 3 .
Leekbrookgull
Well-known member
Boycott,again hits the nail on the head,when he talks about negating the pitch. Just shows you how good the Austrailan attack is.
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
It's a worry for the rest of the series how they can come back from such a hammering
James Taylor 107 not out at Horsham currently. Bairstow is scoring heavily in County Cricket they seem the most likely to come in, although as I previously mentioned Morgan & Hales also have a chance.
My team for Edgbaston
Root
Cook
Bell
Taylor
Bairstow
Stokes
Butler
Ali
Broad
Wood
Anderson
Still looks a flaky top order to me, but that's the best we have. Prey Bell comes good on his home ground - He still has a very strong test record.
My team for Edgbaston
Root
Cook
Bell
Taylor
Bairstow
Stokes
Butler
Ali
Broad
Wood
Anderson
Still looks a flaky top order to me, but that's the best we have. Prey Bell comes good on his home ground - He still has a very strong test record.
*Gullsworth*
My Hair is like his hair
Words fail me, losing by over 400 runs to a bang average Aussie team on a batting pitch. How do you come back from that? What if we were playing a good Aussies team? (shiver)
Prince Monolulu
Everything in Moderation
The amount of wickets we took 
jakarta
Well-known member
That would be the bloke that got 3 runs today against Sussex and has only got past 50 once in last dozen or so innings?
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Root can open
I wouldn't have called them bang average - their number 3 and 4 batsmen both have averages above 50 and two of their pace attack have averages below 30. They're not the Windies of the mid-80s or Waugh's Aussies but they're a useful team
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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Didn't we try that a couple of years ago before moving him back down the order ? I remember Boycott saying something along the lines of " This boy will open for England one day, but not yet, he's not ready "
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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You might expect us to be bowled out for 103 facing Lillie and Thompson but this lot ? In 1975 the standard Aussie fielding positions were 4 Slips, 2 Gullies, a Short leg, Fine Leg and Mid off or Cover. If we put the 2015 team back to 1975, this lot would not have made 50.
*Gullsworth*
My Hair is like his hair
Sorry Gwylan I disagree with you for once, in my opinion they are * a bang average AUSSIE team* A poor Aussie team could have beaten us on this wicket and with our present form. A good Aussie team would have skittles us out for less than 50 today. Our performance in Cardiff defeated this bang average Aussie team but would not have beaten a good Aussie team. Sorry to keep banging on about it
Stumpy Tim
Well-known member
England are a young team & we need to stick with them. They'll have ups (the first test) and downs (this test). The last thing we should do is make wholesale changes - that's the mistake we used to make in the 90's.
I do feel sorry for Taylor though - he should be in the team. He's probably the Bell replacement when he finally retires
I do feel sorry for Taylor though - he should be in the team. He's probably the Bell replacement when he finally retires
KZNSeagull
Well-known member
Just watched the highlights of the ICC World 2020 Qualifier between Papua New Guinea and USA. Sadly, there was no-one playing that we could steal for the England team. PNG wore rather cool caps though.
The Spanish
Well-known member
He still isn't, seeing as the criteria for bringing an england opener is to be a very low scoring cheap wicket and habitual bottle job
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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- Thread starter
- #397
Ffs
Disagree entirely. Decent Aussie teams have failed to grind us into the ground over here. As I said, Waugh's team did but that was an exceptional team. Lillee and Thomson you say? They played just two series over here - 11 games - W 2. L3, D 6. - their record in England wasn't that exceptional. And that's been the case for years: decent Australian bowlers have found English pictures hard to exploit - he team of the 90s and Bradman's Invicibles aside.
This team has three decent pace bowlers (as opposed to the L&T years), a steady opening pair (which none of the sides of the 70s and 80s had) and a reasonable spinner. As I said, they're not world beaters but this is a better than average Aussie side. The first game was a team that hadn't adjusted to English pictures (as NZ failed to do in their first test this summer) but they'd give any test side a decent game (they beat SA, the number one side in the world last year)
Broad will never score big in an innings that matters. He might score a few when we're 7 down and still 300 short of our target but he's far too easy to tie down if need be. A bit of short stuff mixed up with the odd ball at a full length and he's out within half an hour.