BensGrandad
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nwgull
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Or possibly haven't taken their pills yet this morning.
BensGrandad
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Obviously there is bound to be in any cross section of people. But not all of us as they seem to imply.
TWOCHOICEStom
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What does that even mean?
Are they saying "anything is good enough"? Not to my knowledge they're not.
Ernest
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Why is it we have padded seats in one of the best if not the best and probably the best training facilities in this league but one of the worse teams ?
Been baffling me for past couple of years.
Maybe you could e-mail your one sentence question to Barber and see how many paragraphs he takes not to give you the answer!
I think it's the one burning question that most fans would like answered...........but will it get answered? I doubt it.
Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!
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I've highlighted what I believe to be the critical point; in my opinion FFP, whilst related, is actually a secondary issue, albeit it restricts how much additional funding can be provided in the way of loans, additional equity etc to cover any annual losses. I suggest you look the detailed stuff up for yourself in the company accounts; having previously run a business you should be familiar with the terminology. The latest holding company accounts (BHA Holdings Ltd) for 2013/14 are on the club website and show a loss in excess £10m; reading these should address your underlying questions I think. This loss is being covered by TB and the total he's covered in the first three years we've been at the Amex is over £32m; the cost of building the stadium and training ground are additional to this.
To get the annual accounts for the football club entity (BHAFC Ltd) you'll need to go to Companies House and these may show an even bigger annual loss as they will carry the rent payable on the Amex Stadium (£1.0m/pa) and the training ground, assuming the latter kicked-in last season; if it didn't then this will appear in the FC's 2014/15 accounts. BHAFC Ltd is the FL member and FFP is therefore applied to this entity (ie not the holding company); however, the annual accounts filed with Companies House and the FFP return/accounts are not the same thing. There is no public visibility of FFP returns (for any club).
The Merry Prankster
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Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. El Presidente should be able to fix you up.
Ernest
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Simply put why can Bournemouth and Brentford prosper in the higher ECHELONS of the Championship with no parachute money, crowds 1/3 we get complying with FFP and we can't ?
BensGrandad
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I accept what you are saying but does any owner of a football club expect to make a profit. NO as they always said about pubs you can make a small fortune in one but nowadays it costs a big fortune to make it.
Having the right manager is very important to. So lets hope we have that.
BensGrandad
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Put simply it means we will tell them anything and they will accept it without question.
JCL666
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The attacking element of our team is limited.
That's why we are currently flirting with relegation. We have no pace, no creative players and no goal scorers.
It's **** all to do with the manager.
I may post this many many times in order to get my message across.
That's why we are currently flirting with relegation. We have no pace, no creative players and no goal scorers.
It's **** all to do with the manager.
I may post this many many times in order to get my message across.
We're not the only club that's suffered, we finished in the top 6 for the last 2 seasons, so a lot better than most. Our failure this season is not because of FFP, it's because of some poor decisions in the transfer market combined with a new manager who didn't work out.
BensGrandad
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Not seen such Bravery!
To be honest, replacing Leo with COG and Baldock, and pocketing the rest of the 8 million fee, was never going to end well.
KZNSeagull
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Well clearly you have not been paying attention for the last few months. Just about everything at the club has been questioned on here and on the Albion Roar and everywhere else no doubt.
Alex Alex Dawson oo! oo!
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Without taxing myself too much I'd suggest managerial/coaching/backroom stability, lower annual expenditure and other sources of income (eg player sales). The last two will be in their annual accounts at Companies House. However, as Brentford were only promoted last season, their FFP compliance (or not) won't be known until after December as a totally different system applies in Divs 1&2.
Not taking Kermorgant for £750k is just a bad transfer decision, it's not the sole result of FFP. It's not like we haven't been prepared to spend more than that on players. Of course FFP (and how much TB is willing to throw at our club and its spectacularly ungrateful fans) has a bearing on how much we can spend, but it's not the reason we are 20th in the league.