Schoolboy goalkeeping.

BensGrandad · Apr 11, 2015

Acker79 said:
Unless we luck out and the opportunity to sign some amazing keeper falls in our laps in the summer, there is no doubt that Stockdale will be first choice next season. Anyone suggesting otherwise is simply wrong. It's not going to be a position we look to strengthen (beyond, perhaps, a third new third choice keeper).

This depends on who is available free released from the Premier but I would agree we wont spend money signing another keeper.

dingodan · Apr 11, 2015

You do have to admit, it wasn't put in the corner. Not even close to the corner.

You should really have to put it in the corner to score a freekick, or questions really need asking about the goal keeping.

LamieRobertson · Apr 11, 2015

Juror#13 said:
I'm not the one who has to prove if he's shit or not. We all know he's crap and shouldn't be in the squad. You could have a cardboard cut out in goal and that cut out would safe more as his shot stops are straight at him.

Erm but we ALL don't think what you think

LamieRobertson · Apr 11, 2015

BensGrandad said:
Hughton has a decision to make Tuesday, does he say enough is enough and bring in Walton or does he support DS and continue with him. I think he will play him rather than throw in a youngster and put pressure on him. Whether he sees him as No1 next season is a different matter and if so a vast improvement is needed pre season.

Given the lack of quality elsewhere in the team ..loans ending etc I doubt very much he sees us having a goalkeeping crisis

Sheebo · Apr 11, 2015

Shocking bit of keeping. It was clear as hell from WSU North end that he'd left a massive gap on that side. And then to step to the side the wall is covering is indeed schoolboy...

He's made more major errors this season than Kusch did in his 2 years here without doubt. And we spent a million quid to get a worse keeper in - and yet there were people saying DS was better than TK on a thread a few weeks ago?! Wow. Just wow.

Hampster Gull · Apr 11, 2015

Acker79 said:
Unless we luck out and the opportunity to sign some amazing keeper falls in our laps in the summer, there is no doubt that Stockdale will be first choice next season. Anyone suggesting otherwise is simply wrong. It's not going to be a position we look to strengthen (beyond, perhaps, a third new third choice keeper).

I think that is true however he will cost us points, he is too inconsistent. At times great etc. anyway I am ok with him on goal for another year. I don't think we will be challenging and hopefully Walton gets a game or two on his journey to first team

Napper · Apr 11, 2015

BensGrandad said:
Hughton has a decision to make Tuesday, does he say enough is enough and bring in Walton or does he support DS and continue with him. I think he will play him rather than throw in a youngster and put pressure on him. Whether he sees him as No1 next season is a different matter and if so a vast improvement is needed pre season.

Unfortunately I don't even think Hughton sees it as a decision to make .

I remember when stockdale had a string of blunders and then saved a pen or something and hughton came out to say dropping him was never an option .

Based on that there is no way he will not play Tuesday .

I hope Walton can get some more game time somehow or at least do the business pre season . After all what's the point of having such a highly rated keeper if our current no 1 place is never under threat despite regularly making errors. Would like hughton to change his stance

Guerrero · Apr 11, 2015

All goalkeepers make great saves.I once saw a keeper on a Sunday morning at Stanmer Park make possibly the best save I have ever seen.
Unfortunately,he made six howlers and let in eleven goals.
Goalkeeping is about doing the basics right with occasional brilliance.
Stockdale IMHO doesn't fit that bill.

Gazwag · Apr 11, 2015

Diego Napier said:
Unfortunately Dunk taking one for the team ends up as a goal rather too often.

Cost us 3 points on Monday as well

beorhthelm · Apr 12, 2015

just seen MotD with the West Ham keeper doing pretty much the same. i was going to say this yesturday, its not an uncommon sight, keeper spends a minute lining up a wall then positions to cover the chance the ball goes right over the wall, at the expense of their far post. its either in the coaching or some deep phsycological fear that the wall will be beaten. funnily enough i recall everyone tearing lumps out of a keeper when the ball sailed over the wall, while he was so far the other side he couldnt get close. since you cant cover the whole goal and with the swerve players can put on a ball, i dont know why keepers try to hedge, it makes sence to simply surrender the top corner over the wall in the hope they arent accurate enough or the wall jumps high enough. in short, i dont think this is a reason to persecute Stockdale, though he's at fault, its not an unusual failing.

LamieRobertson · Apr 12, 2015

beorhthelm said:
just seen MotD with the West Ham keeper doing pretty much the same. i was going to say this yesturday, its not an uncommon sight, keeper spends a minute lining up a wall then positions to cover the chance the ball goes right over the wall, at the expense of their far post. its either in the coaching or some deep phsycological fear that the wall will be beaten. funnily enough i recall everyone tearing lumps out of a keeper when the ball sailed over the wall, while he was so far the other side he couldnt get close. since you cant cover the whole goal and with the swerve players can put on a ball, i dont know why keepers try to hedge, it makes sence to simply surrender the top corner over the wall in the hope they arent accurate enough or the wall jumps high enough. in short, i dont think this is a reason to persecute Stockdale, though he's at fault, its not an unusual failing.

Look at the goal that Palace scored from a freekick against City last monday Hart was way over to one side....where did the ball go...yep u guessed the other

Pogue Mahone · Apr 12, 2015

beorhthelm said:
just seen MotD with the West Ham keeper doing pretty much the same. i was going to say this yesturday, its not an uncommon sight, keeper spends a minute lining up a wall then positions to cover the chance the ball goes right over the wall, at the expense of their far post. its either in the coaching or some deep phsycological fear that the wall will be beaten. funnily enough i recall everyone tearing lumps out of a keeper when the ball sailed over the wall, while he was so far the other side he couldnt get close. since you cant cover the whole goal and with the swerve players can put on a ball, i dont know why keepers try to hedge, it makes sence to simply surrender the top corner over the wall in the hope they arent accurate enough or the wall jumps high enough. in short, i dont think this is a reason to persecute Stockdale, though he's at fault, its not an unusual failing.

I was going to post similar- Aaron Cresswell's goal was described as superb, and the goalkeeper was not even brought into the discussion - nobody suggested that he was at fault. The goal was basically a carbon copy of Kermogant's, but left-footed.

It seems a strange argument, that he sets up the wall to cover one side of the goal, and he should just cover the other half. Nine times out of ten the free kick is aimed OVER the wall, and goalkeepers have to scramble across to save it. We have seen this again and again.

It was natural for Stockdale to take a step to the left, and brilliant skill from Kermogant's to send him the wrong way. It reminded me of one or two that Beckham scored in the dim and distant past.

I have been disappointed with Stockdale many times this season, but not on this occasion. That was just a brilliant goal.

Vegas Seagull · Apr 12, 2015

Pogue Mahone said:
I was going to post similar- Aaron Cresswell's goal was described as superb, and the goalkeeper was not even brought into the discussion - nobody suggested that he was at fault. The goal was basically a carbon copy of Kermogant's, but left-footed.

It seems a strange argument, that he sets up the wall to cover one side of the goal, and he should just cover the other half. Nine times out of ten the free kick is aimed OVER the wall, and goalkeepers have to scramble across to save it. We have seen this again and again.

It was natural for Stockdale to take a step to the left, and brilliant skill from Kermogant's to send him the wrong way. It reminded me of one or two that Beckham scored in the dim and distant past.

I have been disappointed with Stockdale many times this season, but not on this occasion. That was just a brilliant goal.

Incorrect

Prince Monolulu · Apr 12, 2015

Vegas Seagull said:
Incorrect

All down to opinions eh?

LamieRobertson · Apr 12, 2015

Pogue Mahone said:
I was going to post similar- Aaron Cresswell's goal was described as superb, and the goalkeeper was not even brought into the discussion - nobody suggested that he was at fault. The goal was basically a carbon copy of Kermogant's, but left-footed.

It seems a strange argument, that he sets up the wall to cover one side of the goal, and he should just cover the other half. Nine times out of ten the free kick is aimed OVER the wall, and goalkeepers have to scramble across to save it. We have seen this again and again.

It was natural for Stockdale to take a step to the left, and brilliant skill from Kermogant's to send him the wrong way. It reminded me of one or two that Beckham scored in the dim and distant past.

I have been disappointed with Stockdale many times this season, but not on this occasion. That was just a brilliant goal.

Thats the same point i was trying to make in my post above yours and Hart took no flack

Pogue Mahone · Apr 12, 2015

Vegas Seagull said:
Incorrect

Am I?

Well thank you for letting me know. Obviously, based on your authoritative rebuttal, I have now seen the error of my ways. Clearly you are right and I am 'incorrect'.

So, it was all Stockdale's fault.

Chicken Runner61 · Apr 12, 2015

Pogue Mahone said:
I was going to post similar- Aaron Cresswell's goal was described as superb, and the goalkeeper was not even brought into the discussion - nobody suggested that he was at fault. The goal was basically a carbon copy of Kermogant's, but left-footed.

It seems a strange argument, that he sets up the wall to cover one side of the goal, and he should just cover the other half. Nine times out of ten the free kick is aimed OVER the wall, and goalkeepers have to scramble across to save it. We have seen this again and again.

It was natural for Stockdale to take a step to the left, and brilliant skill from Kermogant's to send him the wrong way. It reminded me of one or two that Beckham scored in the dim and distant past.

I have been disappointed with Stockdale many times this season, but not on this occasion. That was just a brilliant goal.

Many Stoke fans are blaming Begovic the same as many are blaming Stockdale

Pogue Mahone · Apr 12, 2015

Chicken Runner61 said:
Many Stoke fans are blaming Begovic the same as many are blaming Stockdale

Well, I think that they are being equally unfair.

Chicken Runner61 · Apr 12, 2015

Pogue Mahone said:
Well, I think that they are being equally unfair.

Fans unfair on a player

It would never happen in Germany

Moshe Gariani · Apr 12, 2015

Pogue Mahone said:
Am I?

Well thank you for letting me know. Obviously, based on your authoritative rebuttal, I have now seen the error of my ways. Clearly you are right and I am 'incorrect'.

So, it was all Stockdale's fault.

Don't waste your breath. The thicko quotient always shoots up on here after a few bad results.

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