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LadySeagull
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Agreed, but not when they are held hostage by a super-state. Leave voters wanted to make the country great by cutting off the shackles.
I am not a racist.
I saw no bus advert.
I am not stupid or uninformed.
I will never vote remain and nor will anyone I've spoken to who voted leave first time around. My own young adult kids who voted remain, would now vote leave as they've seen for the first time what a stranglehold the EU wields.
btnbelle
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btnbelle
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We will still trade and build alliances with the world....
I am not xenophobic, lets welcome the very best from the world but not just anyone from the EU....
Quality over quantity....
vegster
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Wow ! just Wow !
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It's interesting to watch everybody put out their 'big guns'. Entertaining, but completely pointless
Sad git that I am, I find it more entertaining than X factor
It's not hard to predict, a friend of mine just tells me you need to invest a little time
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LadySeagull
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Why the ''wow''...is the reality finally dawning on you?
You didn't manage to come up with a coherent reply to any of the 3 points I threw in off the top of my head. Hmmm...
In case people skim-read the quote you edited and think I posted the rubbish about pints of beer and driving on the left, etc, I stress that the bit in bold is what I said and the words after that, were meant to be some sort of response, I think:
Are any of those responses meant to convince me that remainers are not merely people who wanted the status quo, due to fear?
You didn't manage to come up with a coherent reply to any of the 3 points I threw in off the top of my head. Hmmm...
In case people skim-read the quote you edited and think I posted the rubbish about pints of beer and driving on the left, etc, I stress that the bit in bold is what I said and the words after that, were meant to be some sort of response, I think:
Are any of those responses meant to convince me that remainers are not merely people who wanted the status quo, due to fear?
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It's interesting to watch everybody put out their 'big guns'. Entertaining, but completely pointless
Labour have good people in the party, shame they are lead by an utter clown.
Labours Matt Woodcock is voting with the Tories tonight .
Gove giving a brilliant speach, destroying the oaf Corbyn and backing his PM. Who would have known.
I’m sorry but someone from the U.K. is the very last person I’ll listen to when it comes to the state-of-a-nation.
Lame-duck leader. Ffs. Listen to yourself.
Sometimes I wonder why I put him on ignore.
Hang on.....
No, no I don't.
I smell a leadership pitch...
Seriously having seen Gove vs Watson there it shows what we could be seeing as leaders, rather than the pathetic specimens we're currently cursed with
Seriously having seen Gove vs Watson there it shows what we could be seeing as leaders, rather than the pathetic specimens we're currently cursed with
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There is a real sense Cabinet and key backbenchers on @Conservatives side are talking themselves into a Customs Union tonight #Brexit
7:48 PM - 16 Jan 2019
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There is a real sense Cabinet and key backbenchers on @Conservatives side are talking themselves into a Customs Union tonight #Brexit
7:48 PM - 16 Jan 2019
Unfortunate boots bounce off brass....
KZNSeagull
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Indeed. Quite extraordinary. I particularly enjoyed the Lib Dems being compared to Vicky Pollard: "Yeah but no but yeah but no".
This. One could argue that although Gove mentioned the PM once, his rather more extensive proselytizing elswhere amounted to damning by faint praise. It was a free hit for him in several respects, including reminding his back benchers what a skilled and erudite lad he is. In other words, shameless self promotion. He remains a slimy little shit, despite the bravura performance.
Watson, on the other hand?....I commend his disloyalty to the momentum gang and their shabby leader.
Labour wont win an election with the current leadership.
I’ve been challenged over calling Tories selfish *****. Now, their party has totally and utterly failed the U.K. There is no other way to describe the events leading up to yesterday which resulted in the heaviest defeat on any government in history. A defeat which would automatically boot you out of power in some other countries. The only decent and honourable thing for the party to do, in fact anyone who has monumentally ****ed up like this in any walk of life, is to resign. But oh no, the self-serving tossers have voted themselves in again using a stupid and pointless system which they brought in to protect themselves in the first place.
Selfish self-serving ***** is all I can think of to describe them.
Selfish self-serving ***** is all I can think of to describe them.
Baker lite
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I didn’t like the result of that confidence vote...can we have another one?
On our way.
On our way.
Barnet Seagull
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I'm not in denial. I see arguments for both sides as anyone who has read and listened ought to be able to do, it is never black and white. I thought leaving would be harmful to the UK as it would draw adversarial divisions in Northern Ireland and Scotland and it would sour relations with Europe. Realistically, I do agree that in the long term leaving may be beneficial economically and more than anything else, at least our politics could be focused on matters which affect our people and we can hold our politicians to account,
The problem is that the type of Brexit I would vote for would be slow and transitional. You may not like it but in every discussion I've had over the past two years, people want different things, be it a no-deal brexit, keeping a customs union, Norway ++, Canada, Services Only etc.
This is true in parliament too and TM's deal reflects the same even inside the conservative party. To suggest that everyone thinks the same is to do an injustice to those who've considered this carefully and come out on either side of the argument.
Hastings gull
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Lame-duck leader. Ffs. Listen to yourself.
You are of course consistent aren't you? Someone from Germany is the very last person we should be listening to when it comes to the state-of-a-nation.