Nixonator
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Yep, been saying this a while. We would still need another midfielder though (in addition to Delaney).
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Thomas Delaney
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Yep, been saying this a while. We would still need another midfielder though (in addition to Delaney).
dadams2k11
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This.
The man is a greyhound and had a quite a few games in the Prem. (one where here was pole axed)
The first few games I thought all he did was knock it backwards but he came into the games and was a good outlet down the right.
I like him.
Nixonator
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Deeply concerning if our first choice RB going into the new season is Schelotto. He's had some great moments, but the bad ones have been getting the basics wrong time and time again.
He's much more a wing back/right midfield for me so unless we change formation I'd like to see another RB added.
HP Seagull
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My thoughts exactly. The basic defensive and positional errors, most of which were nothing to do with a lack of game time, suggest to me he is not a right back, and certainly not at this level.
He could be effective in the right circumstances, and had some good moments last year, but I’m not sure where he can be accommodated in our current system.
GT49er
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We finished 15th with our existing RB pairing, and now we've improved the squad round them. Yes, there's always room for improvement, but I won't be worrying unduly about our RBs this coming season.
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We need 9 defenders in the 25, so 1 short, but Balogun can play both right and left back ( prefers right ), so at most we are 1 left back light.
Silverhatch
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Schellotto is a wing back and not good enough technically to play in a PL 442. Bruno maybe old but he is twice the footballer (technically) of Schellotto.
HastingsSeagull
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I think Delaney would be great in the current Propper role. The Dutchman could back up all 3 central spots and get plenty of games then Kayal is a natural 5th choice and extremely capable in any of the 3 spots very much becoming 'the Sidwell' of next season.
Doesn't add a lot of pace but would fit in to what we seem to go for well, and maybe just up the quality a little. But that increase would then trickle down to the bench spots too making it very worthwhile as a signing.
Doesn't add a lot of pace but would fit in to what we seem to go for well, and maybe just up the quality a little. But that increase would then trickle down to the bench spots too making it very worthwhile as a signing.
symyjym
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Yep, I would have felt more comfortable with Calderon playing RB. Schelotto can be more Bambi than Greyhound at key moments in defense, and it gives the opposition an advantage to tactically to play on his side.
blockhseagull
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I don’t think it would be Propper losing his place
Nixonator
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I don't think you understood his point. 4 players for 3 places in the side with Kayal as cover. Propper is a converted 10 pretty much and CH likes to play with 2x sitting midfielders.
Gives us plenty of options and won't be the same midfield every week as we are used to.
tigertim68
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Did not like his last performance against Liverpool , where defending was tough and he went missing big style
blockhseagull
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Propper has played twice as a no10... both for the Netherlands
He even said himself it wasn’t a position he had ever played before until he was asked to by the manager, his last two appearances have been back in a midfield 2.
He also never played it for PSV ... was part of a midfield 3
Nixonator
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Where has he played as a sitting midfielder, other than here?
Perhaps you missed the interview for BHA where he stated where we play him is not a position he is used to and has had to adapt.
For me, he needs to play further forward.
blockhseagull
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He is used to playing in a midfield 3 not a deep lying midfield 2...... he had opportunities to get forward from a midfield 3
So whilst you are right he hasn’t played as deep as we ask him to, he also has never played as a number 10. He is probably best suited to playing in a midfield 3 but we don’t play with that system currently.
He said he had to adapt to the premier league and that at the time he played as a number 10 role for The Netherlands. He came forward more for PSV than he does for us I hope he can do that next year for us however he wasnt a number 10 for them. Koeman also plays him in a more defensive midfield role. We had a really bad spell when he was suspended we dont have anyone other than Stephens to fill in for him I would like to see better cover and competition for their positions.
Nixonator
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I agree. However, IF we were to sign Delaney or someone very similar (Neto etc..) I would expect to see Stephens/Delaney shielding our back line much more often than we are likely to see Propper/Stephens or Propper/Delaney simply because of how CH wants us to play. Maybe we'll change formation but I doubt it.
We may do next year if Hughton changes to three CB's
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Johnny RoastBeef
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Never say never.
Taken from the Argus this time last year.
Albion boss Chris Hughton has revealed his tactical blueprint for the Premier League.
He will not be copying Antonio Conte or Arsene Wenger.
But he will slightly modify the 4-4-2 system which has served the Seagulls so well in the Championship.
Conte has guided Chelsea to the title after responding to a heavy defeat at Arsenal early on in the season by switching to a three at the back.
Wenger's recent change to three centre-halves and wing-backs has also coincided with an upturn in results for the Gunners.
Albion youngster looks on as Coventry clinch promotion
The Albion-type test facing promoted trio in the Premier League
Albion new boy Balogun makes Premier League consolidation his first priority.
Hughton has no plans to follow suit when the Seagulls launch their first season in the top flight for 34 years in August - although he has not totally ruled out the possibility of using the formation at some stage.
He told The Argus: "At this moment, no. As a manager and coach you are always looking to develop. Up to now I have not used a three.
"You always have to be open-minded and I can absolutely see the value of the system.
"When you play a three at the back there are, for me, two reasons why you play it. One is to give yourself occasionally five at the back, which means you can be defensively solid.
"What that system also does, depending on how you play it, is allow you to do what you want up front.
"Some will play 3-5-2 but the way Chelsea do it is very much 3-4-3.
"It allows you to play two strikers and to be solid at the back or in Chelsea's case - and nobody does it better - it allows them to have Hazard and Pedro or Willian (below) in really offensive positions.
"I wouldn't ignore it. I think you have to be open-minded, particularly in the Premier League."