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WHC X: The FINAL - Grasshopper Mouse Vs Honey Badger
- Thread starter Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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I've nothing against the mouse, it's a hard animal. I just don't think it's pound for pound better than the badger.
But you quoted size of its opponents as a reason for that. I'm arguing (and I would've thought that HB voters would understand this) that it's not just the size of its opponents that make an animal hard; it's how dangerous those opponents are and therefore how mental it is to even enter that situation.
For example: unarmed, I would fare a lot better against a cow than I would against a snake. Therefore, I'd be harder if I took on a snake than if I tool on a cow.
Like everyone's favourite poster, HouseOfTheRisingSunBear?
I haven't cheated.
Yes it's both size and deadliness etc. But what does the tarantula really have going for it? Is it really a tough opponent?
beefypigeon
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- Aug 14, 2008
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I would say being capable of standing your ground regardless of size is a fairly good indicator for how hard a creature is. Shows mental toughness, bravery and strength to be able to do that.
The grasshopper mouse will prey on Toxic centipedes. Impressive, I agree, but pound for pound how does that compare with the Honey Badger?
Grasshopper mouse (4 inch ave body length) vs Centipede (that can grow up to 12 inches). So the ratio here is 1:3 at best, which is certainly impressive.
Now for Honey Badger. Honey Badger will routinely take on Lions. Let's take a mere solitary Lion as an example (despite Honey badger being capable of taking on 6 at the same time):
Honey Badger (a male weighs on average 13kg) vs Lion (a male weighs on average 200kg). So the ratio in this instance is about 1:15.
So taking into account the facts we can all see in favor of Honey badger, with video evidence of it fighting against 6 creatures FIFTEEN TIMES ITS SIZE... and surviving... you think the Grasshopper mouse taking on one centipede three times its size is pound for pound harder?
Quite a lot for a mouse, as tarantulas often catch and eat mice.
Jack Straw
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A few lions that clearly aren't hungry, or particularly bothered, and the best it does is make them walk away.
Or a hungry centipede, actively looking to kill the mouse, with poisonous fangs, yet the mouse not only avoids being killed, but then bites it's head off and eats it.
GM is definitely harder in this situation, as it was in a greater deal of danger, and it came out much stronger (and less hungry)
MantisShrimpMan4eva
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- Feb 7, 2014
- 47
badger fans moaning about cheating again?
Hello mate! Haven't seen you about for a bit. Welcome back.
beefypigeon
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- Aug 14, 2008
- 960
The attackers motives are completely irrelevant in this situation. We're not comparing centipedes to Lions, we're comparing Honey Badgers to Grasshopper mice!
For me, taking on 6 creatures fifteen times its size with impressive and deadly weaponry, is harder than taking on 1 creature three times its size also with impressive weaponry.
The Badger does not think he is being toyed with, he's giving it all he's got clearly. EVEN if he does think he's being toyed with, its like having a small weedy kid being pushed around by 6 complete brutes at school, but for the weedy kid to start kicking/punching/shoving them back and eventually leaving without a scratch.
At least you're actually putting up a reasonable argument in favor of the GM. Most other votes so far have been purely anti Badger, rather than pro Mouse.
jakarta
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Nip & Tuck but I think it is finally the Badgers Year...
Smaller mice I assume.
Think we'll have to agree to disagree on this one, size of competitor isn't the defining factor for me, but how deadly the situation could be. For me, in comparative terms, the GM is in a more dangerous situation against a more formidable opponent (in pound for pound terms).
And then the added bonus of winning, in a brutal way, and then displaying the headmental behaviour of howling in celebration.
Nope, GM is around the same size as your average mouse. And Tarantulas are poisonous.
Is MantisShrimpMan4eva one of your other accounts? This has all the makings of HB&B
Garry Nelson's Left Foot
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One thing that I think is being over looked is that the GM actively hunts, kills and eats the various poisonous scorpions and centipedes. As he does with the other GM that intrude on his land. Leave a few in a cage and when you come back only one will be left. Whereas the HB usually only takes on the bigger beasts when he's backed into a corner. Snakes, on the other hand, he does go for for dinner.
I'm torn, which is as it should be in the final.
I'm torn, which is as it should be in the final.
S'hampton Seagull
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As said previously, the badger's fortunes are interlinked with those of BHAFC. Vote Badger, vote promotion #teambadgerforlife
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Poisonous or venomous? The scorpion venom doesn't even seem to be harmful to the mouse, so it's not that the mouse is being daring and mental, the scorpion just isn't much of a threat to it. Whereas the lions are (obviously) a serious threat to the badger.