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Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
seagulls4ever said:
You would do well not to so blatantly lie. Nearly all of those points are incorrect.
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Ok, take the monarchy, in Sept 2015 " Mr Corbyn has said he wants to reform her role and remove her power over Parliament"
And "Labour's new leader does dream of getting rid of the monarchy, but he's openly admitted it's not going to happen any time soon"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyns-real-views-queen-6452317

JC is still Vice President of the CND
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...n-vice-president-campaign-nuclear-disarmament

I believe it has been established he failed his A levels, and that he has been in public office for 35 years.

So much evidence for sympathy to terrorist groups.

No full time job

Jeremy Corbyn's Falklands plan tantamount to surrender to Argentina,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ntina-warns-wounded-veteran-Simon-Weston.html

So that just leaves one then.........Gibraltar, and do you trust him on that..
 




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soistes

Well-known member
Sep 12, 2012
2,643
Brighton
Soulman said:
Ok, take the monarchy, in Sept 2015 " Mr Corbyn has said he wants to reform her role and remove her power over Parliament"

JC is still Vice President of the CND
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...n-vice-president-campaign-nuclear-disarmament

I believe it has been established he failed his A levels, and that he has been in public office for 35 years.

So much evidence for sympathy to terrorist groups.

No full time job

Jeremy Corbyn's Falklands plan tantamount to surrender to Argentina,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ntina-warns-wounded-veteran-Simon-Weston.html

So that just leaves one then.........Gibraltar, and do you trust him on that..
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Once again, being an MP is (often more than) a full time job
 




peterward

peterward

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NSC Patron
Nov 11, 2009
11,347
Bold Seagull said:
It's about picking apples...

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Except that the fattest apple, back of a fag packet corporation tax hike of 7p will not result in 19.4 billion of revenue, it wont, it will lose the treasury approx 8 billion. The French did the same and lost huge tax revenues, and this is not my opinion or a tory opinion its independent economists....... so even if everything else was deliverable, the make believe basket now stands at 22.4, with a stagnant economy, businesses relocating, others shutting down, no investment, lower recruitment/rising unemployment.... now whats the plan? The Garden tax wont make up the shortfall. Its not revolutionary, its the same failed strategy of economic incompetence
 






studio150

studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
29,611
On the Border
Soulman said:
Ok, take the monarchy, in Sept 2015 " Mr Corbyn has said he wants to reform her role and remove her power over Parliament"
And "Labour's new leader does dream of getting rid of the monarchy, but he's openly admitted it's not going to happen any time soon"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyns-real-views-queen-6452317

JC is still Vice President of the CND
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...n-vice-president-campaign-nuclear-disarmament

I believe it has been established he failed his A levels, and that he has been in public office for 35 years.

So much evidence for sympathy to terrorist groups.

No full time job

Jeremy Corbyn's Falklands plan tantamount to surrender to Argentina,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ntina-warns-wounded-veteran-Simon-Weston.html

So that just leaves one then.........Gibraltar, and do you trust him on that..
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1 of 10 VPs at CND including the Greens only MP but for some strange reason you fail to mention this, I wonder why
 








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Soulman

New member
Oct 22, 2012
10,966
Sompting
Buzzer said:
Because he was talking about Corbyn maybe?
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Exactly. I don't bother responding to him. He has to reply to nearly every post i put up.....sad really.
Anyway, seeing as it was Corbyn i was talking about in my post, and the links and his name were a big clue, i would have thought it was obvious.
 


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KVLT

New member
Sep 15, 2008
1,675
Rutland
Soulman said:
Ok, has he had a full time job (this man of the people brought up in a 7 bed mansion) outside of politics.
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So having had a privileged upbringing precludes him from having a left-wing ideology? You really do talk some absolute piffle.
 


Bold Seagull

Bold Seagull

strong and stable with me, or...
Mar 18, 2010
29,789
Hove
peterward said:
Except that the fattest apple, back of a fag packet corporation tax hike of 7p will not result in 19.4 billion of revenue, it wont, it will lose the treasury approx 8 billion. The French did the same and lost huge tax revenues, and this is not my opinion or a tory opinion its independent economists....... so even if everything else was deliverable, the make believe basket now stands at 22.4, with a stagnant economy, businesses relocating, others shutting down, no investment, lower recruitment/rising unemployment.... now whats the plan? The Garden tax wont make up the shortfall. Its not revolutionary, its the same failed strategy of economic incompetence
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Corporation tax in France is 33%, Germany 22-33%, ours is 19% scheduled to be reduced to 17%. We're like a tiny nation desperate to attract investment rather than standing confidently and having a fair tax regime. The only loss would be if foreign companies invest abroad, but no one is proposing we make ourselves less competitive than other countries, just bringing our corporation tax in line with the other G7 countries for a start. Our corporation tax receipts as a % of GDP are as low as they've been since the early 90s.

“We should be trying to attract investment based on being a really great place to invest, not low tax rates,” said Mariana Mazzucato, a professor of economics at University College London
 




Buzzer

Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
Soulman said:
Exactly. I don't bother responding to him. He has to reply to nearly every post i put up.....sad really.
Anyway, seeing as it was Corbyn i was talking about in my post, and the links and his name were a big clue, i would have thought it was obvious.
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Yeah. I notice he was back to his old tricks.
 












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seagulls4ever

New member
Oct 2, 2003
4,338
Soulman said:
Ok, take the monarchy, in Sept 2015 " Mr Corbyn has said he wants to reform her role and remove her power over Parliament"
And "Labour's new leader does dream of getting rid of the monarchy, but he's openly admitted it's not going to happen any time soon"
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyns-real-views-queen-6452317

JC is still Vice President of the CND
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...n-vice-president-campaign-nuclear-disarmament

I believe it has been established he failed his A levels, and that he has been in public office for 35 years.

So much evidence for sympathy to terrorist groups.

No full time job

Jeremy Corbyn's Falklands plan tantamount to surrender to Argentina,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...ntina-warns-wounded-veteran-Simon-Weston.html

So that just leaves one then.........Gibraltar, and do you trust him on that..
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He's clearly said during the campaign he has no plans to abolish the monarchy. Indeed, it's not in the manifesto. Again, no plans to surrender Falklands. He has repeatedly criticised the abhorrent acts of terrorist groups. Being an MP is a full time job, and unlike some other MPs, he doesn't have another job on the side to boost his income. That aside, he's had trade union related jobs and volunteered in Jamaica for two years before he become an MP. When he was younger, he had a job as a paper boy. He didn't fail his A levels. He got two Es, at a time when the education system was very different. But those grades are not a fail. Not that it's particularly relevant anyway - Diane Abbot got grades good enough to be accepted into Cambridge - it doesn't mean she's a good politician.

You can not trust him and THINK he's going to do those things he's very clearly said he's not going to do, or things he's very clearly spoken out against. But to present what you consider are his plans as facts just stinks of just lies and scare tactics. His opinion on matters (e.g. he may not believe in the monarchy, like many others) does not mean he is going to abolish the monarchy, for example. As he said, he's not a dictator, he respects the democratic process of the Labour Party to collectively choose manifesto policies and his job is to lead the party on the basis of the views of the manifesto, not the views of Jeremy Corbyn. You saying he 'would abolish the monarchy' (factually incorrect) and then linking to an outdated article is irrelevant. Even then, you quoted the article as either saying 'he wants to reform her role and remove her power over Parliament' (that doesn't mean abolition). When it says he does dream of getting rid of the monarchy 'he's openly admitted it's not going to happen any time soon'.
 


Seagull27

Seagull27

Well-known member
Feb 7, 2011
3,308
Bristol
ManOfSussex said:
Which is two more than Sir John Major got and I don't recall that being an issue to anyone in 1992.
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Exactly, what on earth do his A level results 50-odd years ago have to do with anything?

Seeing as education is so important though, I presume [MENTION=26105]Soulman[/MENTION] will be voting for Dr Caroline Lucas

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Silk

Silk

New member
May 4, 2012
2,488
Uckfield
Soulman said:
Same evidence as you. You have no idea really how that audience was made up, you have your figures for how it could be made up.
I think that well over your figures were left leaning.
When you are told that the Amex crowd is 27000 and there are massive gaps.........do you believe it.
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But I'm not challenging the make up of the audience, and you are. They stated how it was made up at the start. You have no evidence to say that it wasn't made up that way. I've given a solid argument as to why a fairly representative audience would be 60% or more non-Conservative voters, you've agreed with the reasoning, but still maintain it was biased, based on no evidence. Either provide evidence, or STFU.
 


ozzygull

ozzygull

Well-known member
Oct 6, 2003
3,832
Reading
I don't know if this is a indication of a turn, but mum who I have only known to vote Tory has switched to labour. This is a day I never thought I would see and very shocked. She said the May has upset set a lot of retired people, that she hangs out with.
 


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