Southern Rail STRIKE details

Ernest · Dec 1, 2016

Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
Actually I am in full agreement here. A second safety person is needed. However does it need to be a guard? Whats wrong with a fully trained OBS? Again serious question.

Nothing whatsoever, call them whatever you like as long is one is on every train that runs

Springal · Dec 1, 2016

I'll be sure to tell the guards I see tomorrow (not likely...) about the SUPPORT I have for them and they can feed it back into the union

Papa Lazarou · Dec 1, 2016

Ernest said:
Nothing whatsoever, call them whatever you like as long is one is on every train that runs*

* other than those that run on services that are designated DOO or when there is an exceptional situation

yxee · Dec 1, 2016

Yes we are OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTIVE of their plans to RUIN OUR LIVES. Cloud cuckoo land.

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Dec 1, 2016

Ernest said:
Nothing whatsoever, call them whatever you like as long is one is on every train that runs

Thanks. But isnt it also the fact that the OBS will in effect have a different role to a guard and I know it goes beyond "who opens the doors".

Do thameslink have an OBS? Again I understand that on branch lines the tech for DOO just isnt there.

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Dec 1, 2016

Psychobilly freakout said:
See this reply clearly sums up you as a union member and the complete contempt for the fare paying public who pay your wages....

This is the very attitude that I don't understand.

Its ok its BANTER I dont know Ernest personally
but thats tongue in cheek.

Ernest · Dec 1, 2016

Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
Thanks. But isnt it also the fact that the OBS will in effect have a different role to a guard and I know it goes beyond "who opens the doors".

Do thameslink have an OBS? Again I understand that on branch lines the tech for DOO just isnt there.

You do know that SASTA have changed the OBS role so they are in charge of the doors don't you ?

Ernest · Dec 1, 2016

Psychobilly freakout said:
See this reply clearly sums up you as a union member and the complete contempt for the fare paying public who pay your wages....

This is the very attitude that I don't understand.

You show every time you post that you are a STUPID idiot as I'm not in a union

Psychobilly freakout · Dec 1, 2016

Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
Its ok its BANTER I dont know Ernest personally
but thats tongue in cheek.

Oh yeah you know that for sure, many a true word said in jest and all that hiding behind a NSC funny man persona.

Doubt it myself, when he calls everybody stupid all the time or maybe I'm a sensitive soul.

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Dec 1, 2016

Ernest said:
You do know that SASTA have changed the OBS role so they are in charge of the doors don't you ?

That surely is a good thing? So drivers aside an OBS will be fully trained safety wide and can open the doors so to speak. So what is the problem? Again it seems that now its become an us v them because of that bellend saying "smash the unions". Meanwhile people like me and even other frontline staff are caught in the crossfire?

Psychobilly freakout · Dec 1, 2016

Ernest said:
You show every time you post that you are a STUPID idiot as I'm not in a union

Ok if you say so, I'm sure you said previously that you were out front of Brighton station with the strikers.

Am I wrong if so I apologise. Do you work for southern ?

Ernest · Dec 1, 2016

Tony Meolas Loan Spell said:
That surely is a good thing? So drivers aside an OBS will be fully trained safety wide and can open the doors so to speak. So what is the problem? Again it seems that now its become an us v them because of that bellend saying "smash the unions". Meanwhile people like me and even other frontline staff are caught in the crossfire?

Apart from the OBS having no training to do and a cluster**k of instructions that will leave everybody worse off

Ernest · Dec 1, 2016

Psychobilly freakout said:
Ok if you say so, I'm sure you said previously that you were out front of Brighton station with the strikers.

Am I wrong if so I apologise. Do you work for southern ?

I was out there showing SOLIDARITY in their FIGHT for a SAFE railway, shame you weren't there too

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Dec 1, 2016

Ernest said:
Apart from the OBS having no training to do and a cluster**k of instructions that will leave everybody worse off

Right so the OBS wont in effect be safety trained and thats the problem.

Psychobilly freakout · Dec 1, 2016

Ernest said:
I was out there showing SOLIDARITY in their FIGHT for a SAFE railway, shame you weren't there too

Sounds fun, so if you are not in the union it must have been your day off, or did you throw a sickie. I would have loved to have been there, but I was stuck in London waiting for a rail replacement bus service.

yxee · Dec 1, 2016

Imagine the luxury of being able to go to a station to join the strikers at the picket line. In beginning to understand your lack of sympathy for the working commuter.

albionite · Dec 1, 2016

http://www.southernrailway.com/mobile/news/gtr-launches-legal-bid-to-stop-aslef-industrial-action/

Funny that they didn't take rmt to court to stop them striking.

Thunder Bolt · Dec 1, 2016

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Thunder Bolt · Dec 1, 2016

albionite said:
http://www.southernrailway.com/mobile/news/gtr-launches-legal-bid-to-stop-aslef-industrial-action/

Funny that they didn't take rmt to court to stop them striking.

Managers can make up the shortfall but they can't drive trains.

Tony Meolas Loan Spell · Dec 1, 2016

albionite said:
http://www.southernrailway.com/mobile/news/gtr-launches-legal-bid-to-stop-aslef-industrial-action/

Funny that they didn't take rmt to court to stop them striking.

Because they can still run a service without a guard and as a few have said on here ironically the service is better (Btn - London)

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