Jeremy Corbyn.

BigGully said:

My point was more that politically if you are defined as poor then you are somehow undeniably vulnerable and once deemed vulnerable you must remain unchallenged.

Poverty is a little easier to define, but the arbitrary formula of 60% of the UK median income only offers some kind of relative poverty and shouldn't immediately, in my view define them as vulnerable.

My own Son who is 22 years who graduated a year ago is in what we consider a decent job and his annual salary is a rather disappointing £34.00 per week above this imaginary poverty line, he is neither poor nor vulnerable.

So whilst accepting there are vulnerable people that should receive unstinting support, I am less inclined to accept poverty in the context used by the left is so prevalent, more a dysfunctionality that often manifest itself into a position of need that then makes them vulnerable.

Its a more complex set of circumstances that rely on different solutions, just saying benefit claimants must be both vulnerable and/or poor is not always true.

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MacKenzie said:

Love and peace to you all, even the nutters.

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burstead said:

here are some policies of JC that the majority of the public agree with.
renationalising the railways.
75% top rate tax on incomes over 1 million.
international convention on banning nuclear weapons.
rent controls on private landlords.
mandatory living wage.
cut tuition fees.
didn't want iraq war and bombings in Syria.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...most-people-actually-agree-with-10407148.html
and this is from the Independent which is a tory rag.

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BLOCK F said:

The Independent a Tory rag
Hardly; do some research.

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Bold Seagull said:

The Indi did come out before the election as supporting another Tory led coalition with the Libs.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/election-2015-these-are-parties-britains-newspapers-are-endorsing-1499763

Traditionally a left leaning paper of course, but how some things change.

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MacKenzie said:

In all honesty I couldn't be doing with the argument, some think Corbyn is some sort of force of nature some think he's a prick, that's what it boils down to.

Love and peace to you all, even the nutters.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

A neat summary of 180 plus pages.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I could have guessed. But Mizen also appears to support a number of workers issues which Corbyn does. I was wondering if there is a tipping point where this would out weigh the other in light of McDonald's comments? Clearly not and I understand.

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Hungry Joe said:

PMQs was refreshing I thought. If this new style of debate in the House lasts then all good (not necessarily the public questions, that would become stale, but I don't believe for a minute JC is that naïve, good opening idea though to set a new tone). Credit where it's due, I though DC played it with a pretty straight bat too and attempted to answer most of the questions fairly directly and showed respect for JC. Who you were more convinced by will obviously depend on your world view, but I'd imagine a fair few of the undecided are at least going to start getting a bit more interested in Parliamentary debate again, at least I hope so.

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pastafarian said:

I thought PMQ was all a bit of a gimmick by Corbyn, more to do with his lack of skills,his unwillingness to ever get involved in confrontation and choosing a format he can hide behind as opposed to trying to make the commons more accountable.

He really should know by now what the concerns of the people he represents are.He should be able to ask his own questions accordingly and not rely on requests by email.
Other MP`s seem to have no problem raising issues that have been brought to their attention by people in their constituencies.



I don’t buy into this bunkum that the commons is simply a bear pit that must be more accountable.Yes PMQ is rowdy, but it’s a few minutes of daft theatre. I can only presume those asking for change only ever watch PMQ rarely on the news which would give this false impression. I very much doubt they switch over to the parliament channel after Eastenders when you can still catch reasoned measured debate still going on in The Commons,The Lords and in Select Committee meetings………..and yes I am fully aware as i wrote this I realised I probably need to get out more.

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El Presidente said:

She was in the studio with Adam Parsons, Nicky Campbell and me. The voice was like melted Toblerone and she WINKED at me when she asked a question.

#Love

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pastafarian said:

I thought PMQ was all a bit of a gimmick by Corbyn, more to do with his lack of skills,his unwillingness to ever get involved in confrontation and choosing a format he can hide behind as opposed to trying to make the commons more accountable.

He really should know by now what the concerns of the people he represents are.He should be able to ask his own questions accordingly and not rely on requests by email.
Other MP`s seem to have no problem raising issues that have been brought to their attention by people in their constituencies.

I don’t buy into this bunkum that the commons is simply a bear pit that must be more accountable.Yes PMQ is rowdy, but it’s a few minutes of daft theatre. I can only presume those asking for change only ever watch PMQ rarely on the news which would give this false impression. I very much doubt they switch over to the parliament channel after Eastenders when you can still catch reasoned measured debate still going on in The Commons,The Lords and in Select Committee meetings………..and yes I am fully aware as i wrote this I realised I probably need to get out more.

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pastafarian said:

I can only presume those asking for change only ever watch PMQ rarely on the news.

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pastafarian said:

He really should know by now what the concerns of the people he represents are.He should be able to ask his own questions accordingly and not rely on requests by email.
Other MP`s seem to have no problem raising issues that have been brought to their attention by people in their constituencies.

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Horton's halftime iceberg said:

Look forward to what he is going to do next PMQ's that I think may be after the conferences.

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Herr Tubthumper said:

I could have guessed. But Mizen also appears to support a number of workers issues which Corbyn does. I was wondering if there is a tipping point where this would out weigh the other in light of McDonald's comments? Clearly not and I understand.

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FREDBINNEY said:

Well ?? What's your view ??

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beorhthelm said:

i like the idea of peoples questions, and maybe MPs would do well to take this up more widely as a simple way to contect to constituents and engage them in the political process (get a name drop against the questions. in practical terms though its a gimmick of course - Corbyn isnt going to ask any question he wouldnt otherwise likely ask. now if there was suggestions then an open poll on those questions, things could get interesting (and potentialy embaressing for Corbyn so unlikly).

and "reasoned measured debate" is one of putting it, i'd call it dull, tedious rambling. it aint for TV.





isnt he going to sit and let someone else take the session as part of his new politics? i'm sure that was something being talked about at the weekend.

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Bry Nylon said:

I know - i was listening. Lucky *******.

Top marks for managing to mention Brighton and Hove Albion though! Made me smile.

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