BigBod
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Good to see 2 black mangers on the sidelines
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stripeyshark
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Why must a race group be over represented in one field just because they are in another? Being a football manager is a completely different skill to being a footballer. Black players often seem to have an advantage with speed and strength which helps in football, but in management, that attribute does not help. So yes, if a comparison is to be made then it should be with the population as a whole, not with football players.
We have a manager? Who knew.
sir albion
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It's a fact they will follow their roots and play cricket because many don't intergrate into the british way like most who moved here or are moving here.
Asia equals cricket wether they're born here or not
I wish somebody would correct the typo in the thread subject. It's driving me nuts. But maybe it means "eater" and not a straw box? Who knows.
BrianWade4
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Not players
Definitely Manager level - 6 of 92 pro mangers in England are black. Under represented compared to players
The greatest problem is in the boardrooms...
BrianWade4
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My point was more there seem opportunities for players who are BME but less so for more senior roles - managers and CEOs etc
BrianWade4
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My point is more that black / mixed race people get opps as players but don't seem to get chances in senior roles
It's why the FA is considering the 'Rooney rule' as used in the US
BrianWade4
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Sorry for delayed response. Can't view NSC at work
In short, it's not an easy one....
I recall Chris Hughton's comments which someone else posted
I think players get chances from BME backgrounds, but struggle to progress to senior roles in managing or running clubs
To take one analogy, if so many BME players appeared for Engkand why can't they progress onto senior roles post playing
Check out the latest research by the LMA AND FA
As an aside, I am not PC or left wing
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BrianWade4
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That was my point which admittedly you explained better than me (since corrected)
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A thought but maybe BME are only perceived as quick and strong (physical qualities) to make good players, and therefore not perceived to have mental strengths to be managers, CEOs
Tubby-McFat-Fuc
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So do you think we need to address the reason why so many white players do not get the opportunity to play professional football, while so many black/mixed race men do?
Do you think that would warrant looking into?
How do we go about making sure a higher percentage of white players get to be professional footballers?
I would imagine from you opening post, you know the percentages of players in the game that are white British, black British, or overseas non British. That might help if you are saying a certain section is under or over represented.
I would also image you would know the stats of how many of these British Black players have applied for managers jobs?
Or maybe it would be better if people like you, didn't go around labeling people black and white, and just got on with things, as I believe there are more black players percentage of the population wise, as more black people percentage wise are better players than white players. I believe there are more white managers, as tare better managers than black managers, no other reason.
So if you think its disgraceful that so few managers that are black, maybe you should find it more disgraceful why there are so few white players as the discrepancy is much higher?
Or, better still, stop labelling people black and white, as until people do, it's going to be hard for everyone to see people for the person they are, rather than the colour of their skin. IMO you are doing far more harm than good, starting threads like this, as is anyone who does similar in any walk of life, no matter how good their intentions are.
stripeyshark
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A thought but maybe BME are only perceived as quick and strong (physical qualities) to make good players, and therefore not perceived to have mental strengths to be managers, CEOs
That's a load of bollocks really.
There is no link between the two and you know it. There are an equal number of BME representatives in managerial roles compared to the population - it's fair. Making race an issue - like you are doing - is not helpful.
BBassic
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Its a tricky one.
People should, of course, be hired on ability and not skin colour but its possible that the lack of, say black managers, is putting young black managers off; maybe they see it as something of a glass ceiling.
I don't know, I'm just speculating.
People should, of course, be hired on ability and not skin colour but its possible that the lack of, say black managers, is putting young black managers off; maybe they see it as something of a glass ceiling.
I don't know, I'm just speculating.
Uncle C
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And I thought a black manger was a deadly spider.
Ferring Marine
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A black manger might produce a better starting line up than you know who.
He'd know who's best.