FIFA Poppy Fine

Knotty · Dec 19, 2016

BensGrandad said:
I am dropping out of this thread as I will upset too many.

Are you surprised? You do realise that what you said is very stupid, don't you? Unless you can define your ridiculous generalisation with some specifics.

Some people accuse you of living in the 1950s with your football views. Your recent comment on racism puts you in the 1850s.

dazzer6666 · Dec 19, 2016

BensGrandad said:
I am not saying in every case but I think that in many cases it is classed as racist chanting when more a dsiplay of patriotism to their own country. Unfortunately everything is judged black or white.

WTF ??!!!

Thunder Bolt · Dec 19, 2016

Papa Lazarou said:
35K you say?

Argentina only got fined $20K for this blatant political statement.

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Bill Cassidy's tie up · Dec 19, 2016

What I cannot understand is how wearing a poppy is classed as political or religious.

BN9 BHA · Dec 19, 2016

Albumen said:
There are rules.
They were broken.
We were fined a small amount.
End of story.

I disagee with the end of story part.

turienzo's lovechild said:
It's ludicrous and totally unfair and can't really see their reasoning at all. I'm glad the home nation FA's actually stood up to them and went for it anyway- but these two comments from FIFA stand out to me

"The display, among others, of any political or religious symbol is strictly prohibited," he added.
Loads of countries display religious symbols on their shirts- often in the form of the countries badge...Israel, Turkey, Portugal and in fact, England being four examples

"In the stadium and on the pitch, there is only room for sport, nothing else."
Do me a favour- how is surrounding the pitch with billboards (mostly for companies totally unrelated to sport and often for really, really unethical companies) showing that there is 'only room for sport' inside the stadium?!

Great post.

maltaseagull · Dec 19, 2016

Albumen said:
There are rules.
They were broken.
We were fined a small amount.
End of story.

Possibly, but why were England fined so much more than Scotland for the same "offence"?

And also has been previously pointed out, other countries fined less for racist chants from supporters.

hart's shirt · Dec 19, 2016

Fifa disciplinary committee chairman Claudio Sulser said he "fully respected" the commemorations..."

Poppycock.

Wardy's twin · Dec 19, 2016

Albumen said:
There are rules.
They were broken.
We were fined a small amount.
End of story.

The 'rule' is wrong. The poppy is no different to a black armband except it is special to British military dead.

The Large One · Dec 19, 2016

Dr. Notthenineo'clocknews said:
I'm reading this wrongly ..... Surely?

No, you're reading it right. He's happy to accept racism as being, 'in many cases', patriotic.

portlock seagull · Dec 19, 2016

Wardy's twin said:
The 'rule' is wrong. The poppy is no different to a black armband except it is special to British military dead.

Getting tired of football and it's mawkish commemoration of nearly EVERY tragedy, big and small, local, national, international...and soon galactic no doubt. Absolutely meaningless unless got something to do with THAT team.

Raleigh Chopper · Dec 19, 2016

BensGrandad said:
I am not saying in every case but I think that in many cases it is classed as racist chanting when more a dsiplay of patriotism to their own country. Unfortunately everything is judged black or white.

Probably the most ignorant post i have read on NSC, you sad, sad man.

Frutos · Dec 19, 2016

BensGrandad said:
I do not agree with all the backlash on racist chants I prefer to think of it as being patriotic in many cases.

Erm...what?

Mackenzie · Dec 19, 2016

Don't pay. **** fifa

Raleigh Chopper · Dec 19, 2016

North Stand Nutter said:
Don't pay. **** fifa

Is, of course, the right answer, I will be very disappointed of these fines are payed.

mooey · Dec 19, 2016

Unfortunately this is life the corrupt dishing out the rules.that they can just flaunt when it suit them.for me personally all the bits and bobs minute silence applause ect.... should nt be forced on people they should do it because they want to id rather it be kept away from football as that is all I goto football for the the air crash was different as it affected our club.i still will stay slient though just out of respect for other people.

mooey · Dec 19, 2016

Unfortunately this is life the corrupt dishing out the rules.that they can just flaunt when it suit them.for me personally all the bits and bobs minute silence applause ect.... should nt be forced on people they should do it because they want to id rather it be kept away from football as that is all I goto football for the the air crash was different as it affected our club.i still will stay slient though just out of respect for other people.

GT49er · Dec 19, 2016

mooey said:
Unfortunately this is life the corrupt dishing out the rules.that they can just flaunt when it suit them.for me personally all the bits and bobs minute silence applause ect.... should nt be forced on people they should do it because they want to id rather it be kept away from football as that is all I goto football for the the air crash was different as it affected our club.i still will stay slient though just out of respect for other people.

So why didn't you? Just asking, like...............................

Wardy's twin · Dec 20, 2016

portlock seagull said:
Getting tired of football and it's mawkish commemoration of nearly EVERY tragedy, big and small, local, national, international...and soon galactic no doubt. Absolutely meaningless unless got something to do with THAT team.

I think there is a great difference between Armistice day and a celebration for an individual. In this case the game was played on that day so showing respect is IMO the correct thing to do. I agree that wearing of black armbands would generally be more suitable.

spring hall convert · Dec 20, 2016

goldstone said:
"In the stadium and on the pitch, there is only room for sport, nothing else."[/I]

And loads of advertising to please FIFA's commercial partners of course.

Having said that, we were made aware of the rules and as much as we disagreed, it was our choice to break them. The fine was as depressingly inevitable as some of the virtue signalling that has gone on around this matter.

portlock seagull · Dec 20, 2016

Wardy's twin said:
I think there is a great difference between Armistice day and a celebration for an individual. In this case the game was played on that day so showing respect is IMO the correct thing to do. I agree that wearing of black armbands would generally be more suitable.

Yep and the rest of the nation did it at 11am so why is football special? And why didn't do during preceding 100 years? Sorry, it's just another symbol of our narcassistic society today eg If not captured on film, social media or demonstrably marked then it can't have happened.

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