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[Football] Raphael Dwamena RIP



fosters headband

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Aug 15, 2003
5,158
Brighton
So what happens once they've failed a medical because of heart reason? They can carry on but no one can sign them?

That article more or less just highlights that Liverpool were dishonest in how the medical went with Remy. Not that he has a dodgy heart.

Did you read it all
"The 27-year-old continued, telling Telefoot: 'I was not scared. I know exactly what I have, I met all the specialists in the world. A lot of players share the same situation as mine and Liverpool know it.'

Remy was diagnosed with a heart defect in 2010, but the problem seemed to put Liverpool off."
 




Megazone

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Jan 28, 2015
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Northern Hemisphere.
Did you read it all
"The 27-year-old continued, telling Telefoot: 'I was not scared. I know exactly what I have, I met all the specialists in the world. A lot of players share the same situation as mine and Liverpool know it.'

Remy was diagnosed with a heart defect in 2010, but the problem seemed to put Liverpool off."

Exactly. That's the only mention of what it's like being a footballer with heart conditions. No where does it mention what happens at medicals and why different clubs make different/less moral decisions on signing players who could be a danger to themselves playing football.

In Boxing, they give Boxers Brain scans. If they find the slightest shade on the brain, the Boxing board of control won't give the boxer the license to box for their own safety. You'd think Football would have similar rules considering it's mandatory that players have to take medicals.
 


fosters headband

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Aug 15, 2003
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Brighton
Exactly. That's the only mention of what it's like being a footballer with heart conditions. No where does it mention what happens at medicals and why different clubs make different/less moral decisions on signing players who could be a danger to themselves playing football.

In Boxing, they give Boxers Brain scans. If they find the slightest shade on the brain, the Boxing board of control won't give the boxer the license to box for their own safety. You'd think Football would have similar rules considering it's mandatory that players have to take medicals.

I understand sorry, but surely the (3) clubs after Liverpool have had medicals carried out on him and still they sign and play him. Surely also insurance companies must have still insured him. It could be that Liverpool were just covering up other unknown reasons for not going through with the transfer.
 


Whitechapel

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I'm wondering if what Connor Goldson has been through has made us look deeper in to things like heart conditions, as well as making us more cautious.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
Did you read it all
"The 27-year-old continued, telling Telefoot: 'I was not scared. I know exactly what I have, I met all the specialists in the world. A lot of players share the same situation as mine and Liverpool know it.'

Remy was diagnosed with a heart defect in 2010, but the problem seemed to put Liverpool off."
Liverpool have turned down a player on the grounds of a heart problem before - Asa Harford from WBA, about 40 years ago. I think he went to Leeds.
 








HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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Nov 9, 2009
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It didnt do Tiote much good, playing with a heart condition.
I would imagine a lot of the problem is insurance. If a player's career ends through injury then the club want to claim on the insurance, 10 million is a company asset.
If his career ends and if it is proven that the condition is known by the club, you can bet your life the insurance company will refuse payment.
 




BangaloreGull

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Jun 18, 2011
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Burgess Hill
Liverpool have turned down a player on the grounds of a heart problem before - Asa Harford from WBA, about 40 years ago. I think he went to Leeds.

My recollection was that it was Leeds who turned him down and he went to Man City, but you may be right, I will go and google; I think of him every time the subject comes up. A hole in the heart sounded so dramatic when I was about 8, now I understand it, not nearly so, although scary none the less. My wife had same condition.
 


Not Andy Naylor

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Dec 12, 2007
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Seven Dials
Liverpool have turned down a player on the grounds of a heart problem before - Asa Harford from WBA, about 40 years ago. I think he went to Leeds.

No, It was Leeds who turned him down after a medical found a hole in the heart and he eventually went to Man City.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
My recollection was that it was Leeds who turned him down and he went to Man City, but you may be right, I will go and google; I think of him every time the subject comes up.

No, It was Leeds who turned him down after a medical found a hole in the heart and he eventually went to Man City.
Fair enough - guilty as charged! In my defence it was a l o n g time ago.
 




The_Viper

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Oct 10, 2010
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Charlotte, NC
Not sure why anyone is complaining, if the club don't want to take the risk for 10 million quid then that's their choice isn't it? The decision to play on and be selected by national and club teams he plays for is their decision isn't it? They got it spot on with Neto, they saved Goldsons career and potentially his life later on down the line. I'll trust the club.
 


GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
Not sure why anyone is complaining, if the club don't want to take the risk for 10 million quid then that's their choice isn't it? The decision to play on and be selected by national and club teams he plays for is their decision isn't it? They got it spot on with Neto, they saved Goldsons career and potentially his life later on down the line. I'll trust the club.
I don't think anyone is complaining, are they? - apart from FC Zurich and Dwamena's agent, both of whom can see £ signs disappearing into the distance.
 












Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
Argus headline and piece:

Brighton and Hove Albion fuming as FC Zurich brand them amateurish

"Albion have refused to comment publicly on Canepa’s outburst, but The Argus understands they are shocked and concerned by his reaction."

:facepalm:
 




MattBackHome

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Jul 7, 2003
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Argus headline and piece:

Brighton and Hove Albion fuming as FC Zurich brand them amateurish

"Albion have refused to comment publicly on Canepa’s outburst, but The Argus understands they are shocked and concerned by his reaction."

:facepalm:

Quick, someone call the fire brigade and gas board to deal with all the FUMES.
 


NooBHA

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Jan 13, 2015
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Argus headline and piece:

Brighton and Hove Albion fuming as FC Zurich brand them amateurish

"Albion have refused to comment publicly on Canepa’s outburst, but The Argus understands they are shocked and concerned by his reaction."

:facepalm:


Perhaps FC Zurich should look up the meaning of ''amateurish'' ? Then ask themselves. Which of the two clubs playing with the backing of the ''big bucks'' now ?
 


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