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[Albion] Why are we buying players who then play for someone else ?



Driver8

On the road...
NSC Patreon
Jul 31, 2005
15,952
North Wales
Its a decent shout. Perhaps bringing in a seasoned ex-striker who's been there and done it all to provide specialised coaching for our U23 forwards would be a step in the right direction. Obviously your Shearers and Wrights are all wrapped up in punditry and too well off to be interested anyway. But there must be any number of retired strikers (of Sheringhams ilk) who'd have something to offer. As you say, if they help coach a rough diamond out of our U23's who can really make an impact then it could be a very lucrative and worthwhile investment.

Like BZ perhaps?
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,674
Location Location
Like BZ perhaps?

Now you're talking !

Dunno what he's up to these days mind, or if he has any coaching badges. But what U23 striker wouldn't benefit from having coaching sessions from the great BZ ?

"Dear Mr Barber..."
 




Thunder Bolt

Ordinary Supporter
The only reason he is going out on loan is to get a work permit, otherwise he would be straight in the 1st team, he is being touted as a First Team signing. No ifs and buts about it. The only thing stopping him from being in our squad next season is the Work Permit.

Get a work permit or to qualify for a European passport? I'm not sure how long the qualifying period is in, say, Belgium.
 


burnee54

East Upper Hermit
Sep 1, 2011
1,150
up the downs
Could somebody PLEASE explain to me why Percy can't play for us now?
We are, as I'm sure you are all aware, STILL a part of Europe.
Young Perc, can go to Europe and play immediately.
He is however not allowed to play in this country until he gets the magic piece of paper.
Surely the same rules should apply.

Could someone post and explain the laws/rules that are being applied in this country that don't affect our European cousins?



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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patreon
Oct 8, 2003
49,341
Faversham
Yup, we can now sign international players, knowing we can't play them, and farm them out until they're ready.

We've come a LONG way from the days when we got all excited about signing rejects from Championship clubs.

Exactly.

I am delighted by the way our club has adapted its approach since we got promoted, with some clearly very smart long term strategies that most of us on NSC (with some noteworthy exceptions) don't quite understand. I am certainly among the latter. Nevertheless I am quite happy for daylight to not be shined on the magic. This is the exact opposite of the Archer years when people had to shine a light on the shit shower destroying our club. My glass is now very much (more than) half full :rock::cheery:
 


Gabbiano

Well-known member
Dec 18, 2017
1,243
Spank the Manc
Could somebody PLEASE explain to me why Percy can't play for us now?
We are, as I'm sure you are all aware, STILL a part of Europe.
Young Perc, can go to Europe and play immediately.
He is however not allowed to play in this country until he gets the magic piece of paper.
Surely the same rules should apply.

Could someone post and explain the laws/rules that are being applied in this country that don't affect our European cousins?



???

The right to live and work in any EU country is given to citizens of EU countries only. Tau is South African and does not hold an EU passport.

For non-EU citizens, each country makes its own rules regarding eligibility to work. Therefore the UK work permit is harder to obtain than other countries because of the rules that have been set domestically.

Tau would need a separate permit to work in any individual country (unless he obtains a European passport, which likely would take several years). Whereas, as an EU citizen, for example Andone, can play in any EU country no questions asked.
 




AZ Gull

@SeagullsAcademy Threads: @bhafcacademy
Oct 14, 2003
11,589
Chandler, AZ
Could somebody PLEASE explain to me why Percy can't play for us now?
We are, as I'm sure you are all aware, STILL a part of Europe.
Young Perc, can go to Europe and play immediately.
He is however not allowed to play in this country until he gets the magic piece of paper.
Surely the same rules should apply.

Could someone post and explain the laws/rules that are being applied in this country that don't affect our European cousins?



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I stand to be corrected, but presumably this comes down to the rules of the particular country's Football Association. I presume, therefore, that the FA has stricter criteria for issuing a GBE (Governing Body Exemption) than the FAs of other European countries. (The Home Office won't grant a work permit without this GBE).
 


Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
61,674
Location Location
You can't use the lack of strikers the club produced before the new facilities as a comment on the current set up. They are completely different. We will only know if the current set up will produce strikers in the next decade once the kids have come through all the age groups. Until then it is just trendy clique whining.

Is it BOLLOCKS

Tell me where Bobby Zamora came from. Did he come from "new facilities" ? You don't need gilded training grounds, 4G pitches and ice baths to nurture brilliant talent. It helps, but its not the be-all and end-all. You need to have a scheme whereby raw talent is recognised, nurtrued, and you need the coaches to bring it to fruition so that they can realise their full potential. Which in terms of strikers, BHA have not yet achieved.

I'm not saying it'll never happen - but so far, it hasn't. And lesser clubs than ours have done it. We're still behind on that particular curve.
 






Megazone

On his last warning
Jan 28, 2015
8,679
Northern Hemisphere.
We've come a LONG way from the days when we got all excited about signing rejects from Championship clubs.

I disagree. It was only this time 10 years ago, we'd pulled off the impossible with the big name signings of David Livermore and Kevin McCleod. You could see we were in for a bright future.
 


portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
16,979
One of the most bizarre signings in my Albion supporting history if transfer fee is to be believed.
 
















portlock seagull

Why? Why us?
Jul 28, 2003
16,979
Nothing will beat the signing of Bergkamp. Great name, that was it.

In fairness we’ve had a lot of his type, Tau signifies a new dawning ie big money and we loan out immediately Chelsea style. Extraordinary for us!
 





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