GOUT!

severnside gull · Aug 30, 2017

Ask your doctor to prescribe colchicine
Very effective for occasional flare-ups. Works quickly (24hrs). Gives you the shits (as in turns your guts to liquid) but who cares!

BensGrandad · Aug 30, 2017

I suffer with it and in fact it started again last weekend and as he usually does the doc prescribed Naproxen 500gm and it goes within 2 days.

Mellotron · Aug 30, 2017

The problem for me with both Naproxen and Alluprinol is that I have long term Gastritis and so on doctor's orders I cannot really take anti-inflammatories, or not too many anyway...

Tim Over Whelmed · Aug 30, 2017

Don't eat any processed foods or anything with preservatives or flavour enhancers such as Chinese Takeaway Food (full of MSG), offal, mushrooms (don't ask me why), asparagus, wine, anchovies and shell fish and beer! (Other than that have a ball!)

Plenty of water, cherry juice and allopurinol

Tim Over Whelmed · Aug 30, 2017

Mellotron said:
Thanks everyone for your contributions.

People saying it's worst pain they've ever known - I think acute (exposed nerve) toothache is a close one, and probably worse.

Honestly, you may not have had a serious attack yet, that's not meant to be smart it's just so bl00dy painful when it hits!

The Brighton Buzz · Aug 30, 2017

Tim Over Whelmed said:
Honestly, you may not have had a serious attack yet, that's not meant to be smart it's just so bl00dy painful when it hits!

Yep Let's hope you never have a serious attack of gout or you would wish the toothache would come back. When you are almost in tears with the pain and can't walk you are having a proper attack of gout. Trust me it can make grown men cry. Hope you can avoid serious attacks.

SeagullDubai · Aug 30, 2017

Hillian1 said:
Oh, and mine usually lasted about a week at a time.

I missed loads of games at The Amex due to Gout.

Luckily you still managed to get to the pub. For medicinal purposes of course.

neilbard · Aug 30, 2017

Mellotron said:
GOUT. Just seen docs and looks like I've got it. Pretty severe pain through last night, couldn't sleep a wink. Anyone here had it? How long did it last, and what did you find helped ease the symptoms?

Cheers NSC.

A guy I used to work with said this worked for him. http://www.apple-cider-vinegar-benefits.com/apple-cider-vinegar-for-gout.html

BensGrandad · Aug 30, 2017

It was always thought to be an age thing brought about by old colonels drinking port but doctor assured me that is an age old myth and bares no relevance to the causes.

TheDuke · Aug 30, 2017

Mellotron said:
GOUT. Just seen docs and looks like I've got it. Pretty severe pain through last night, couldn't sleep a wink. Anyone here had it? How long did it last, and what did you find helped ease the symptoms?

Cheers NSC.

6 years ago I was on crutches. My joints (feet, ankles, hands, elbows and shoulders) blew up so badly.... I looked like the Elephant Man....REALLY! Eventually I was referred to a specialist in Bognor. He diagnosed that I was saturated with uric acid. It took nearly 2 years to get to the point of having some real time without gout pain. I'm now on 300mgs of Allopurinol daily and thank God I hope I'm thru it. Apart from the obvious pain killers, I was on Indometicin which is a really strong anti-inflamitory but came with problems of upsetting your digestive system and creating ulcers... so there was a pill to alleviate that. For what it's worth, the Far East doctors believe Chicken meat is bad for Gouters.... who knows. Should you want to PM me, please feel free. I can remember a guy on NSC helping me outstandingly.

Birdie Boy · Aug 30, 2017

I have had it for well over 15 years, with two bad bouts. The second one was where after 5 years of being on allopurinol, I thought I was cured! I didn't take any for two years but it inevitably came back. I will never stop it again.
I haven't really found a trigger except dehydration, so I drink a fair few pints of water/squash a day. Although I have not had a big bout since the last one, roughly 10 years ago, I get twinges everyday in my toes. My uric acid is fine according to blood tests so I just put up with it. A couple of days off the lager seems to give me twinges as well. And big sessions..
This may be related but I cannot stand or walk on my feet for long lengths of time as I get severe pain in the souls of my feet. Arthritis, gout and trapped nerve has been ruled out. I personally think it is a trapped nerve as it affects my hands/fingers as well. Waiting on another hospital appointment. I have had this issue for around 10 years.
I am going to try out that Apple cider vinegar, as I have some in the kitchen and see if anything changes.

Best of luck and if allopurinol works, don't stop it!

Official Old Man · Aug 30, 2017

It is the worst pain you'll ever experience. Giving birth would be less painful and over in a few hours. I've suffered for around 30 years and many times I've thought about cutting my foot off. As I seem to be allergic to most tablets that are available (brings my lips up real bad) I am on a very strong pain killer and also gastro tablet to stop ulcers from the pain killers. Still get a few attacks every year but a lot less than previously.

BigGully · Aug 30, 2017

I remember the good times said:
It is the worst pain you'll ever experience. Giving birth would be less painful and over in a few hours. I've suffered for around 30 years and many times I've thought about cutting my foot off. As I seem to be allergic to most tablets that are available (brings my lips up real bad) I am on a very strong pain killer and also gastro tablet to stop ulcers from the pain killers. Still get a few attacks every year but a lot less than previously.

Brave ........................

BigGully · Aug 30, 2017

Tim Over Whelmed said:
Don't eat any processed foods or anything with preservatives or flavour enhancers such as Chinese Takeaway Food (full of MSG), offal, mushrooms (don't ask me why), asparagus, wine, anchovies and shell fish and beer! (Other than that have a ball!)

Plenty of water, cherry juice and allopurinol

MSG is prevalent in many natural foods, mushrooms, tomatoes and parmesen cheese to name but a few, so unless you dont eat those either then MSG has never really been a trigger for your gout, its an example where we identify a trigger or cure that really doesn't exists.

Durlston · Aug 30, 2017

Mellotron said:
Thanks everyone for your contributions.

People saying it's worst pain they've ever known - I think acute (exposed nerve) toothache is a close one, and probably worse.

Right now, it's my haemorrhoids and the f*****g things won't ever go away. Wiping my arse on sandpaper would be more comfortable (and soothing) at the moment.

Cheshire Cat · Aug 30, 2017

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?323915-Gout-Please-help&highlight=gout

http://www.northstandchat.com/showt...y-advice-from-fellow-sufferers&highlight=gout

http://www.northstandchat.com/showthread.php?215968-Gout-Advice&highlight=gout

More common than I thought

spongy · Aug 30, 2017

I have just seen the notification from earlier. Sorry I haven't replied yet. What [MENTION=16842]Hillian[/MENTION] has said is very wise advice to follow.

At the end of the day you now have it and the chances are that you will have another one. If this is your first attack then do you remember doing anything differently over the last few days? Been on a session? It's been quite humid lately, have you been drinking enough fluids to counteract dehydration and alcohol?

I'm quite a simple case, I like a drink too much. So I try and always drink at least 1.5 litres of water a day. Good advice anyway even if you don't drink.

I get attacks in my ankle. I know a lot of people suffer in their toes but wait until it hits a joint 10x the size of a toe and by God you know about it. I have had to get out of bed and sit on the sofa screaming into a pillow because of the pain, even a breath of wind is pure agony.

My advice would be have a bottle of Apple cider vinegar in the cupboard at all times, that helps subside it with me. It tastes fudging rank so 2 tablespoons in a decent sized cup with some orange squash and neck it. 3 times a day.

Others rave about cherry juice, you can buy concentrate from Holland & Barrett but it's expensive and never worked for me but everyone is different!

Right now I'd stay off the drink, if you have painkillers then take them, if you have a store of anti inflammatories such as naproxen then take them.

Try and ride this attack out. I went a year between my first and second. I didn't know my first was gout. I thought I'd just busted my ankle at work so took a couple of days off and was ok 3 days later.

If you have another then you're very much susceptible to further attacks.

If you do then start on allopurinol from the doctors. Starting it can cause an attack so the doctor may advise starting colchicine before hand to cover the possible attack. I now have stores of naproxen and colchicine in the cupboard if I feel that dreaded twinge.

Colchicine is a horrid drug though. When I was awake over night with an attack I kept taking them. That was a bad idea. It gave me horrendous stomach cramps and diarrhoea like I've never had before. I lost 7lbs in under 4 hours. Couple that with gout and I wanted to die. Especially when you're doubled over in bed with cramps and squirts and unable to move quickly due to my ankle!

Good luck.

If ever you need to talk it over and how to deal with it then by all means drop me a pm. I'll be happy to help.

I'm only on 100mg a day of allopurinol. I weened myself off a few times and it eventually came back so if you start it understand it could be a medication for life.

um bongo molongo · Aug 30, 2017

I had loads of problems with my ankle which i thought was related to an old football injury but eventually got diagnosed with gout. As I had private through work and live in London was lucky enough to get referred to one of the top rheumatologists who basically gave me the option of managing through diet (his opinion - you'll read loads of things trigger it but he believes it's beer, shellfish and red meat and especially offal) - or starting allopurinol, but on the understanding that once you start you have to stay on it for life. I asked what he would do and his answer was "I believe we were put on this earth to enjoy ourselves". So started on allupurinol a few years ago and *touches wood* so far so good (and I definitely haven't given up beer or red meat - although I do avoid shellfish as that seemed a major trigger). I had dicloflenac as my stand by if I feel any twinges.

Tim Over Whelmed · Aug 31, 2017

BigGully said:
MSG is prevalent in many natural foods, mushrooms, tomatoes and parmesen cheese to name but a few, so unless you dont eat those either then MSG has never really been a trigger for your gout, its an example where we identify a trigger or cure that really doesn't exists.

Agreed, but the amount used in chinese food is normally excessive. It "appears" to be a trigger point for me, chinese that is.

BigGully · Aug 31, 2017

Tim Over Whelmed said:
Agreed, but the amount used in chinese food is normally excessive. It "appears" to be a trigger point for me, chinese that is.

I am being a little mischievous, but I use MSG in a few chinese dishes that I cook, its usually no more than a pinch as it is in takeaways and I am not sure that China has a gout epidemic either so it seems illogical.

I have gout attacks, they can be horrendous but quite random, it just lends itself to unlikely cures and triggers that rarely stand up to any medical scrutiny, it is even a little odd that there should be such a diverse number of triggers without any obvious links between many of the components of those foodstuffs.

I haven't had an attack for over a year, but my lifestyle and diet is very similar to a few years ago when I had a few in a very short time, perhaps if I was analysed to a point that I became a scientific investigation then something might be accurately identified, but otherwise its all poppycock and/or psychosomatic.

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