Lib/Dems win Richmond Park.

TimWatt · Dec 2, 2016

Richmond has by tradition been a base for liberal party support - but it was always a marginal constituency at best as it's not all Richmond Green (RIP Sir Dickie). It also has a continual changing population being a commuter belt area, especially young people, in recent time aspirational city types tending to be Tory voters.
Being by Heathrow (and a lovely place) it's also very cosmopolitan - meaning that although Heathrow pollution and noise is a big issue, the hostile threats to these people and their friends and neighbours of Brexit is far bigger right now.

Wardy's twin · Dec 2, 2016

Common as Mook said:
A lot of it will also be down to his ludicrously stupid Mayoral campaign.

Now i first read that as May oral....

Lincoln Imp · Dec 2, 2016

topbanana36 said:
Not much of a surprise really liberal left Richmond. See how they fair in the next bi-election in Lincolnshire.

I think I might be able to predict that one!

WonderingSoton · Dec 2, 2016

Simster said:
Exactly. It's not a shock because the LibDems poured resources into a winnable seat. But some people on here are talking as if it was a gimme when it clearly wasn't because Richmond is NOT natural LibDem territory.

I'm delighted by this result but I'd be interested to see how they might do in a seat that is very 50-50 pro/anti brexit. That would be a far better indication of the public strength of feeling on the issue.

Errm, it most definitely IS Lib Dem territory, it's a liberal area that has been held by LDs before as recently as 2014...

alfredmizen · Dec 2, 2016

spring hall convert said:
I'm talking about the music at the start. It's a band called Sleaford Mods. I like them as it goes. Responsible for this ditty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1les61ahgK0

You carry on though.

ha ha , my bad , humble pie duly swallowed.

GT49er · Dec 2, 2016

Voroshilov said:
answering with just a smiley rather reinforces his point

To you, maybe. But then maybe you agree with him anyway. It's just a shame there isn't a thumbs down option for such posts any more.

Simster · Dec 2, 2016

WonderingSoton said:
Errm, it most definitely IS Lib Dem territory, it's a liberal area that has been held by LDs before as recently as 2014...

Yes, yes. I KNOW that now. Is anyone else going to point out my mistake or do others simply read the entire thread before posting?

Tony Towner's Fridge · Dec 2, 2016

Two interesting points to me.

First : Labour polled a paltry 1500 votes

Second : The Monster Raving Looney party candidate was called Howling Laud Hope and he polled 184 votes

both great IMHO

TNBA

TTF

n1 gull · Dec 2, 2016

Simster said:
Yes, yes. I KNOW that now. Is anyone else going to point out my mistake or do others simply read the entire thread before posting?

Not being funny but it is definitely a Liberal area - I hope this helps?

JC Footy Genius · Dec 2, 2016

Albumen said:
First evidence that a liberal alliance works, kudos to our Lucas. It's a shame that Labour are too self important to get their head around this as it's the only way to beat the right at the moment.

Maybe Labour understand going down the 'ignore the majority democratic vote' path adopted by the Lib Dem's (frightfully liberal) would most likely be catastrophic for them in their Northern Brexit voting heartlands as well as hardening and probably increasing support for the right.

150+ seat Tory /UKIP majority in the House of Commons anyone?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/anti-brexit-parties-would-win-150-fewer-seats-than-pro-leave-par/

https://medium.com/@chrishanretty/t...r-constituencies-vote-283c85cd20e1#.s1rtv7jsw

https://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisapple...ext-election?utm_term=.cum7k4ZxZv#.kswQMVzNzq

Simster · Dec 2, 2016

n1 gull said:
Not being funny but it is definitely a Liberal area - I hope this helps?

Thanks. I'll bear that in mind.

Gwylan · Dec 2, 2016

WonderingSoton said:
Errm, it most definitely IS Lib Dem territory, it's a liberal area that has been held by LDs before as recently as 2014...

No, it was Conservative in 2014.

While it's true that Lib Dems won three elections between 1997 and 2005, it's slightly misleading to say it's LibDem territory. That's when the Tories were in a bit of a state and lost all sorts of solid Tory seats (like Lewes for example). Before 1997, Richmond (in its various guises) had been a Conservative seat since the 19th century

FREDBINNEY · Dec 2, 2016

Simster said:
Exactly. It's not a shock because the LibDems poured resources into a winnable seat. But some people on here are talking as if it was a gimme when it clearly wasn't because Richmond is NOT natural LibDem territory.

I'm delighted by this result but I'd be interested to see how they might do in a seat that is very 50-50 pro/anti brexit. That would be a far better indication of the public strength of feeling on the issue.

It most certainly IS lib dem territory !!

Simster · Dec 2, 2016

FREDBINNEY said:
It most certainly IS lib dem territory !!

I can't believe you logged in using your SECOND account just to join in. Sake. :lolol:

alfredmizen · Dec 2, 2016

Simster said:
I can't believe you logged in using your SECOND account just to join in. Sake.

Childish tosser that Fredbinney :lolol:

heathgate · Dec 2, 2016

Simster said:
Ah ok, fair enough. Nevertheless, overturning a 22,000 majority is relevant IMO.

No Conservative candidate, upset that Zach G jumped ship showing party disloyalty, nobody wanted to vote Labour... no Ukip or Green alternative..... Lib Dems next choice in list for protest vote.

Put a Con candidate in there next time and it will swing back.

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Seagull27 · Dec 2, 2016

I don't think this result is that significant in terms of Brexit, it won't change much.

However, it could have a few Tory MPs worried, in the seats that swung from lib dem to tory in 2015. I imagine a lot of voters who float between these two parties may be a bit miffed at the recent snooping laws brought in. A few by-elections in some of these areas could have the Tory majority looking extremely fragile.

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alfredmizen · Dec 2, 2016

heathgate said:
No Conservative candidate, upset that Zach G jumped ship showing party disloyalty, nobody wanted to vote Labour... no Ukip or Green alternative..... Lib Dems next choice in list for protest vote.

Put a Con candidate in there next time and it will swing back.

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Just look at the hampsteads on her !! Looks like bugs bunny!

neilbard · Dec 2, 2016

Raleigh Chopper said:
And it's also full of people who have the ability to think things through properly and make the most sensible decisions.
It's just a shame that the majority of the rest of the country was unable to do this.

****!

SAC · Dec 2, 2016

heathgate said:
No Conservative candidate, upset that Zach G jumped ship showing party disloyalty, nobody wanted to vote Labour... no Ukip or Green alternative..... Lib Dems next choice in list for protest vote.

Put a Con candidate in there next time and it will swing back.

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The Tories should have fielded their own candidate, not to do so was an insult to the electorate.

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